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here from somewhere in the skies uh

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apologies for being a few minutes late I

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was uh getting my best my best attire on

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here don't I look so so dressed up

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um yes that is for our special guest

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who's gonna be joining us in just a

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second to go through this week's UFO

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news with us and go over our podcast

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highlights of the week welcome to

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of you um so hello hello to Lord boss

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hello to Daylin Daylin finally made it

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on time you made it here before me dalen

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you were early so um so appreciate that

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hello to Douglas Sprague and Susan

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Sprague watching from New York hello to

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Ian disclosure team Vinnie is here

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on C is here hi guys and hello to Robert

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um if I missed your name I do apologize

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but we gotta get going we gotta bring

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him in he's only got a limited amount of

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time so we want to break down all the

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latest UFO news with you guys as well so

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without further Ado our special co-host

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for tonight we have got Daniel

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zetterstrom welcome to somewhere in the

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live stream brother thank you so much

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for having me man it's an absolute

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pleasure to be here I'm such a fan of

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all your work and everything that you do

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on the channel and everything you write

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it just exudes compassion and humanity

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and I think that's kind of something

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that we're gonna need going into this

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subject as it's revealed to us going

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forward so thank you absolutely well the

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pleasure is all mine as always brother

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there's a reason you and I are friends

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and um that is one of the reasons I'm

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having you on tonight because you are

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just a wealth of compassionate

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information and insights with this topic

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um before we get to our first news story

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Dan I don't know if you saw but um last

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week I ran a contest at somewhere in the

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skies uh aliacon in Pasadena California

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we're so gracious to give me two passes

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to their big alien event

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don't know I've worked with aliencon in

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the past I've spoken at their events

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fun time no matter what you think of

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ancient aliens or Skinwalker Ranch or

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um it's just like a big comic book goofy

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comic book convention where do you do

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get some UFO insights some actual stuff

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as well but we um our winner actually

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sent me a a short video of uh their time

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there at alien con so bear with me Dan

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I'm gonna play this really quick clip

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from our winner of the contest uh her

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California and uh she made it to the

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event this weekend so I'm gonna play

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there it is I didn't know the video was

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gonna be so narrow and we'd still be in

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it that was really cool and and just to

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goddamn time and there it was right in

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that video of course man of course it

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was meant to be it was meant to be well

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I'm I'm glad she had a great time again

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thank you to aliencon for giving us

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those tickets to give away and it looked

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like Karina had a wonderful time so

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that's awesome hopefully they'll bring

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one of these to the UK soon we'll we'll

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uh fingers crossed brother fingers

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um everyone's so happy in the chat here

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to see you here buddy so this is going

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to be super fun fine oh it's humbling

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let's do it let's get to the UFO news of

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um our first story first known Canadian

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uh study is now underway this comes from

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CTV News and bear with me just a sec Dan

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I'm gonna pull up this uh slideshow that

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I made for tonight

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um so why don't you tell us your

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thoughts first and foremost on this

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Canadian government UAP report that's

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proposed to be coming out while I uh get

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our slideshow going if you don't mind

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sure my I mean my initial reaction was

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happen essentially what we're looking at

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is the office of the chief science

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advise of Canada

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still kind of advises so Justin Trudeau

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guidance and things like that this study

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is essentially looking at who gathers

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um what's done with them what they can

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ascertain from the reports and and

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ultimately it comes down to not not

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being a place where you report your UFOs

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items but somewhere that's kind of

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saying hey something's going on we need

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to kind of get all this information from

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all these different areas and pull it

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recognizing patterns there was a little

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bit about working with the USA in there

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um which makes me wonder you know since

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since we're looking essentially a five

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eyes here whether the UK is going to be

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a part of this kind of information

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um so yeah my first reaction was that uh

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lovely human kind of flaw of Envy

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because I want this to happen in the UK

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this is exactly what we need right well

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and you know they did mention to you we

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should we should say sky Canada project

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this is what this is going to be called

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um they were primarily influenced by the

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United States and everything that they

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were doing over there so of course like

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we can only hope that that keeps

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bleeding over to other governments and

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countries because I mean if the United

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States is of any example there are

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things in our guys that we are just now

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learning about uh in the public at least

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we don't know how long our intelligence

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apparatus or military have really known

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that's um that's yet to be really seen

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but yeah man um I I think what we're

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seeing now is just a uh the dam is

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breaking and it has ever since you know

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kind of the establishment of

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it aim's song we had uapcf that became

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aim Sugg that became Arrow it's like

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evolving like Pokemon right

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I know I'm waiting for the fully evolved

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Squirtle over here

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man uh well yeah yeah what else do we

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have here um the project plans to

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collect information this winter and

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spring before preparing in the internal

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draft for the fall uh so yeah it looks

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like if the Canadian public gets

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anything it's not going to be to the

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spring of 2024 which is a bummer but if

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we know anything about waiting on these

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reports it uh you know be patient and

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and it'll drop when you least expect it

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apparently that's how this stuff goes

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I'm real curious to see what that public

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report is going to look like you know I

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prefer slow and steady you know can

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consider it what we need is a bunch of

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discrete data piles that you know aren't

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necessarily fed by all the same

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organizations and then those discrete

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data files might show similar patterns

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that we can kind of go okay so you're

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seeing the same thing as we're seeing

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and start establishing that you know

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it's not top secret U.S technology and

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things like that but

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things like that will play into it part

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of this is going to be prosaic and when

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I say prosaic I don't mean there is not

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Wanderers because there's a whole load

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of things that science doesn't know

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about that they're going to learn along

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the way so that's what I love about this

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UFO subject you kind of almost have to

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become you know this kind of

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what's the word uh poly kind of uh

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expertise in a lot of different areas

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right right

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um and this is no different you know we

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get a proper study happening scientists

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is going to discover new things to

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uncover to study and they might lead

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science in directions that we just don't

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even fathom exist today this is what

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science does you know as I said on on

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that UFO podcast the other day advances

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through Kicking and Screaming but the

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second that something new is established

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someone just runs with it gravitational

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waves is such a good example of this 10

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o'clock back 15 years and we didn't

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think they existed now we're building

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you know we we have ligo that's kind of

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a huge laser uh essentially a laser that

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kind of when when a gravitational wave

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hits it it bends a little bit

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um and it's really interesting and the

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next version of that is called Lisa

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which is going to be a constellation of

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satellite so we're essentially going to

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have an earth-sized gravitational weight

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detector the world detect a different

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range of gravitational waves uh so so

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it's going to be really interesting you

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know there's every chance that once we

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get these gravitational wave sensors up

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and running they might detect some kind

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of perturbation from the craft that that

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we think we see in our atmosphere if

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they use in a gravitationally based

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technology then that's exactly what uh

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it should be happening you know that

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laser should be changed because it'll be

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kind of Rippling in a pawn you know

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right and and oh that's so fascinating

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and what excites me most about this

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story too Dan is the fact that it's the

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chief science advisor that headed this

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thing up it's not the Air Force I mean

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obviously the Canadian Air Force will be

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involved RCMP is going to be involved a

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lot of other organizations as well but

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science advisor that kind of

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springboarded this whole thing so that

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gives me hope like you just said it's

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not just about finding National Security

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threats in Canada it's about trying to

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understand

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the possible technology behind some of

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these these UAP or like you said to find

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uh whether it's actual like new weather

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anomalies or or or some some sort of

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science that we have yet to um even

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begin to fact well lightning is a real

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good example as well of this you know

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right it comes up a lot in UFO science

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people go oh it's just bull lightning we

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don't know what bow lightning is we

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don't know the process that creates it

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we think we might but we've never kind

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of really nailed it down and a lot of

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different phenomena seem to to play into

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that kind of same area

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um it's plasma physics it's really

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interesting and from that we could get a

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whole new energy sources even if it

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turns out not to be intelligent we could

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build spaceships that can approach kind

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of you know percentages of the speed of

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light from that technology so this is a

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very very very welcome study and I can't

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wait to see what they uncover yeah

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absolutely man well hey you're talking

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about propulsion systems and physics

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that could not bleed into our next story

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anymore so let's move over to our next

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big one this kind of hit a couple days

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ago we've got Avi Loeb from the Galileo

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project and Sean Kirkpatrick from Arrow

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working together these guys came out

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with a paper through Harvard University

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uh just a few days ago I believe it was

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titled physical constraints constraints

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on unidentified aerial phenomena

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um and like I said Avi lobe is the head

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of the Galileo project Sean Kirkpatrick

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is the director of Arrow so this is a

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big deal the fact that um not only did

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these two write something together uh

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but that the organ organizations are now

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starting to sort of collide and we're

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seeing that a lot lately arrows working

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with this new group Enigma Labs who are

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going to be creating an app where you

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can like upload your UFO reports and

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sightings and data and I I just dude

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it's crazy that in 2023 all of this this

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ripple effect we've seen since 2017 is

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still happening in 2023 and it's only

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growing in what's most exciting is we're

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seeing scientists get involved Chief

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science advisor Canada Avi Loeb doing

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his crazy ass stuff with the Galileo

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project which I absolutely love

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um so my question for you

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um

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did you understand anything in this

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paper because

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holy [\h__\h] this went over my head so much

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but I loved it um once I got to the last

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few pages with all the equations I kind

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of checked out but the first couple

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pages are really interesting uh so yeah

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what were your initial thoughts when you

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first read the paper and she kind of

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gleaned

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so my initial reaction was one of

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frustration because you know we've heard

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so many stories about footage that Arrow

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has access to and and data that Arrow

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has access to that show anomalous things

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you know this this paper is admittedly

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it's unidentified aerial phenomena not

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unidentified anomalous phenomena so

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after a little while you know I was

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talking to people online and you know

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smarter people than myself that probably

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understood that page of equations

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um and we were talking about you know

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weather so a number of implications here

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so one great to see Abby Lowe Tech like

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this and and he knows that he needs to

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speak a certain language to appeal to

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academics so I totally understand using

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you know standard physics models and

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sticking to that uh to to talk about it

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and you can see that reflected in the

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kind of the cool bit of the people where

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he's talking about dandelion seeds and

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motherships and seeding Pros into the

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universe that was really interesting but

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it's also very very conventional right

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um so a lot of people reacted to this

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with equal frustration kind of saying

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well if they're using War levels why

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aren't we looking at that you know there

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are Papers written on that uh that are

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peer-reviewed and people are trying to

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figure that out you know roughly how

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this technology would work but

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ultimately the paper comes down to

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saying essentially if something's moving

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fast in our atmosphere there's gonna be

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friction so think about you know when

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astronauts return from space and you

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kind of get you know the heat around the

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capsules and things like that that would

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happen to something moving really fast

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in our atmosphere unless

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it could somehow mitigate those effects

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so if for example a craft is in like a

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bubble of sort or it's using

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gravitational

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you know uh vectoring and and kind of

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Falling Towards its destination instead

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of flying then none of this counts but

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what this does do is it establishes a

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kind of

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something moving fast in our atmosphere

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should produce a fireball and radio

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waves and things like that if we see

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something moving fast and it's not doing

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those things then we're dealing with

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non-conventional physics so whilst this

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is frustrating to read in some ways it's

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worth remembering you know it's not

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peer-reviewed it's a pre-print so once

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this goes out to peer review people can

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refute it uh you know like Miguel cubie

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he could you know refute it with his

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paper about the alchemia drive of warp

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drive

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um

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but also that yeah it establishes that

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Baseline for them to work from uh for me

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the the weird thing is that like I say

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Arrow should kind of be Beyond this

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already and and it just makes me wonder

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you know what exactly do they have

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access to uh what exactly did uapcf do

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what did amsoc do because it doesn't

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seem like they had a database uh you

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know kind of getting all of these things

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in order it seems like Sean Kilpatrick

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has had to come in and literally start

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from scratch

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right and this is kind of you know what

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we heard from uh Jay Stratton I know he

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spoke at alien con I think today

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actually and um and and Carino was

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telling me that he kind of aired some of

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his frustrations on how hard it was to

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get anything from uh doe from um you

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know what else the Air Force even

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um to see what they have in terms of

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data or or what they've collected on

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sensors and whatnot and um and yeah you

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know the more you say that the more I'm

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frustrated too now because I'm like we

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we should be far past this it's almost

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like um Sean kinda and I I mean no

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disrespect but it's like he kind of put

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his name on this thing with Avi lope but

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every other sentence was credited to Avi

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lope like this this was like this was

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Avi Lopes paper let's be sure

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um and the one thing that I really uh

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really excited me in the paper was right

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at the beginning actually when Avi

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brought up the other Interstellar object

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that crashed into the ocean and that

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they still have plans to go try to

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retrieve that and kind of the technology

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they'll use to try to do that

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um so that you know while while this

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paper kind of was like kind of a

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theoretical sales pitch in some ways

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um it did give me hope that we could

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still recover this other Interstellar

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object and see what it's comprised of is

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there anything artificial to it is there

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technology or Alloys in it that um we've

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yet to fully uh understand uh I don't

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know but my absolutely like pipe stream

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for that object is that we get it and

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find that it's like a time capsule from

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a previous universe or another timeline

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or something like that that just

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contains like this whole wealth of

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knowledge for us and you know once

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technology gets that advanced we could

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we could put the whole of Wikipedia onto

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like a tiny thumbstick and just throw it

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into space right and yeah we could

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protect it against you know radiation

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and things like that and program it to

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kind of say until you detect a certain

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level of life or Consciousness or

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something like that do not activate so

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to other forms of life it could be a

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rock to us it could be the key to

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everything and obviously that's a

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fantasy but this this is what we're

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working with you know this this is an

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unknown it's only the second

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Interstellar object that we've come

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across Avi found the other one with his

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student uh um and it's really exciting

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because yeah as conservatives as this

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paper is the fact is they're still doing

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work on the real Cutting Edge of kind of

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astronomy and science that'll feed it in

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I remember people uh some scientists

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refute him what Abby was saying about

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and

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it was really funny to see actually

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because they were saying uh

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basically oh it's not an artificial

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spacecraft it's this form of media but

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the form of media that they were saying

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it is is never found before so they were

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kind of downplaying the the impact on

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science that it could have uh even if

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it's something prosaic you know yeah

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absolutely so I guess my last question

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then with this story Dan is um what what

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did you really take from it uh in terms

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of you know uh moving the conversation

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forward I guess any last words on this

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story before we move on

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so one thing that I really want them to

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do is I would love to see what this

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paper looks like if Abby had

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Incorporated the the OSAP dudes into the

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conversation no the papers were produced

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as those they were looking at what

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technology would be around in like 50

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years 100 years and this paper doesn't

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kind of consider those things they only

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considers what we know one can make use

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of these days so it would be incredible

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to see that kind of level of postulates

519
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in I think the craziest Abby gets in

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00:23:39,890 --> 00:23:37,679
this is talking about Dyson spheres but

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he talks about them as things that uh

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you know a structure that's completely

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covering us out which would you know one

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that's not where a Dyson Sphere is the

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Dyson Sphere is originally proposed is a

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bunch of smaller craft that kind of

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float around a star and gather energy

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and exactly back to the planet for us to

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use so you know very different in terms

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of engineering prowess you know making a

531
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capsule around the Sun versus a couple

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00:24:05,390 --> 00:24:03,720
of spacecraft uh or a couple of hundred

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spacecraft that kind of gather their

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energy

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um but also it would be silly to kind of

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block that light and energy from Life in

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the universe you know we we saw in The

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Simpsons movie uh them trying to reflect

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the sun right and the effects of that as

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funny as it was but can you imagine just

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blocking the sun

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um at source like what that would do to

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kind of plant life here and stuff like

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that there are implications for these

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00:24:34,010 --> 00:24:30,900
things that you know won't explode But

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ultimately I hope it's

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it's a kind of this is to get that

548
00:24:41,149 --> 00:24:39,179
Baseline this is to be able to say it's

549
00:24:42,950 --> 00:24:41,159
politicians hey look according to

550
00:24:44,870 --> 00:24:42,960
science this is what known physics can

551
00:24:46,430 --> 00:24:44,880
do and there's things outside the bounds

552
00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:46,440
of known physics

553
00:24:52,909 --> 00:24:49,440
right well okay one last question on

554
00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:52,919
This I Promise why was Sean Kirkpatrick

555
00:24:57,169 --> 00:24:55,200
involved with this at all but what do

556
00:24:58,610 --> 00:24:57,179
you think he contributed to this if

557
00:25:00,710 --> 00:24:58,620
anything

558
00:25:02,990 --> 00:25:00,720
that's a really good question I I

559
00:25:05,149 --> 00:25:03,000
imagine the talk about sensors and how

560
00:25:07,730 --> 00:25:05,159
to apply this to the data bank that he

561
00:25:09,049 --> 00:25:07,740
has uh is probably why he was involved

562
00:25:10,190 --> 00:25:09,059
here he's gonna be able to take this

563
00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:10,200
data

564
00:25:14,090 --> 00:25:12,240
um you know use it to maybe inform an AI

565
00:25:16,010 --> 00:25:14,100
based system that can filter out a lot

566
00:25:17,450 --> 00:25:16,020
of the prosaic stuff uh in a

567
00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:17,460
presentation that Sean Kirkpatrick did

568
00:25:21,649 --> 00:25:19,440
not to oh too long ago

569
00:25:23,510 --> 00:25:21,659
um I think it was to a transport kind of

570
00:25:26,149 --> 00:25:23,520
Consortium or something like that I

571
00:25:28,970 --> 00:25:26,159
can't remember the exact name but he he

572
00:25:30,590 --> 00:25:28,980
mentioned about signs of life you know

573
00:25:32,570 --> 00:25:30,600
kind of comparing patents to science of

574
00:25:35,570 --> 00:25:32,580
life and what he meant by that was that

575
00:25:37,549 --> 00:25:35,580
you know we we can use big data to kind

576
00:25:41,390 --> 00:25:37,559
of say what are the signs of life in New

577
00:25:43,490 --> 00:25:41,400
York how do we look at that so they can

578
00:25:44,930 --> 00:25:43,500
kind of say okay so there are these Busy

579
00:25:46,730 --> 00:25:44,940
Bodies going around between buildings

580
00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:46,740
that's a sign of life

581
00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:49,200
um there are also people on buses there

582
00:25:52,789 --> 00:25:50,880
are people on cars and these things all

583
00:25:54,950 --> 00:25:52,799
have fingerprints and you can kind of

584
00:25:56,450 --> 00:25:54,960
feed those fingerprints into a system to

585
00:25:58,730 --> 00:25:56,460
kind of say okay take the signs of Life

586
00:26:00,409 --> 00:25:58,740
of humanity out of that system take the

587
00:26:03,289 --> 00:26:00,419
signs of Life of

588
00:26:05,450 --> 00:26:03,299
you know birds and balloons and things

589
00:26:07,250 --> 00:26:05,460
like that out of that system of course

590
00:26:08,690 --> 00:26:07,260
if that was all employed already we

591
00:26:11,090 --> 00:26:08,700
wouldn't have seen the shootouts that we

592
00:26:13,130 --> 00:26:11,100
saw in the past couple of weeks uh you

593
00:26:14,750 --> 00:26:13,140
know that could have been separated but

594
00:26:16,549 --> 00:26:14,760
the point is we need to kind of filter

595
00:26:18,350 --> 00:26:16,559
out that data pile because there's too

596
00:26:20,690 --> 00:26:18,360
much in that data pile

597
00:26:22,850 --> 00:26:20,700
um so I I think Sean's going to be

598
00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:22,860
taking this work and applying it in a

599
00:26:28,010 --> 00:26:25,679
way that allows him to focus on the more

600
00:26:30,049 --> 00:26:28,020
anomalous things and actually inform all

601
00:26:31,610 --> 00:26:30,059
of those other departments so hey we've

602
00:26:34,130 --> 00:26:31,620
actually got 50 drones a day coming in

603
00:26:37,250 --> 00:26:34,140
and kind of you know scanning on you

604
00:26:40,730 --> 00:26:37,260
probably need to fix that you know right

605
00:26:42,769 --> 00:26:40,740
right exactly and sorry I I cut you out

606
00:26:45,049 --> 00:26:42,779
of there for a second there

607
00:26:47,810 --> 00:26:45,059
um yeah yeah I think you're right I

608
00:26:50,149 --> 00:26:47,820
think moving forward this is definitely

609
00:26:52,610 --> 00:26:50,159
something that Kirkpatrick could use and

610
00:26:55,070 --> 00:26:52,620
all I can hope for right now is that his

611
00:26:57,409 --> 00:26:55,080
team is getting larger and that he gets

612
00:26:59,750 --> 00:26:57,419
the funding that he actually needs to

613
00:27:02,810 --> 00:26:59,760
continue yeah I don't want to see that

614
00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:02,820
thing just Fade Into Obscurity again man

615
00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:06,480
like if we've gotten this far like I

616
00:27:11,930 --> 00:27:09,360
don't want to see us step back now would

617
00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:11,940
you would you prefer Arrow to kind of

618
00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:14,159
become more robust or would you prefer

619
00:27:19,310 --> 00:27:16,799
Biden's suggested initiative of like an

620
00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:19,320
interagency independent task force take

621
00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:22,080
okay very good question I know we had

622
00:27:27,470 --> 00:27:24,000
this conversation over on that UFO

623
00:27:30,350 --> 00:27:27,480
podcast uh this past week of um you know

624
00:27:32,570 --> 00:27:30,360
which would be better and right now it's

625
00:27:34,510 --> 00:27:32,580
kind of looking like Biden's interagency

626
00:27:42,110 --> 00:27:34,520
would have more

627
00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:42,120
and would be able to hopefully identify

628
00:27:48,230 --> 00:27:45,600
and mitigate uh the these unknowns in

629
00:27:50,570 --> 00:27:48,240
our skies a lot more efficiently

630
00:27:52,310 --> 00:27:50,580
um but we know Kirkpatrick was at the

631
00:27:55,490 --> 00:27:52,320
briefings when this interagency

632
00:27:57,529 --> 00:27:55,500
announcement was made so I'm sure behind

633
00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:57,539
the scenes they're all kind of working

634
00:28:02,330 --> 00:28:00,000
together and

635
00:28:03,769 --> 00:28:02,340
um yeah I don't know at first I was

636
00:28:05,289 --> 00:28:03,779
really frustrated I'm like really

637
00:28:08,690 --> 00:28:05,299
another

638
00:28:11,149 --> 00:28:08,700
goddamn agency to do this we have Arrow

639
00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:11,159
come on come on but then the more you

640
00:28:15,710 --> 00:28:13,440
and Andy were were talking about it I'm

641
00:28:17,210 --> 00:28:15,720
like oh this is actually much more

642
00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:17,220
cohesive

643
00:28:23,630 --> 00:28:20,000
um and it's literally being kind of

644
00:28:26,149 --> 00:28:23,640
blessed by the U.S president so I mean

645
00:28:29,269 --> 00:28:26,159
with his stamp on it it's a lot more

646
00:28:31,070 --> 00:28:29,279
powerful and hopefully you know these

647
00:28:33,649 --> 00:28:31,080
these groups that kind of gave pushback

648
00:28:35,870 --> 00:28:33,659
to Jay Strutton in the past maybe

649
00:28:37,789 --> 00:28:35,880
Kirkpatrick in the present

650
00:28:40,909 --> 00:28:37,799
um aren't gonna say no to the U.S

651
00:28:43,310 --> 00:28:40,919
president in terms of uh what they might

652
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:43,320
actually have so I don't know I don't

653
00:28:46,430 --> 00:28:44,880
know where I stand

654
00:28:50,289 --> 00:28:46,440
um I just hope they all work together

655
00:28:52,870 --> 00:28:50,299
you know God God forbid any

656
00:28:56,090 --> 00:28:52,880
compartmentalization within the U.S

657
00:28:57,529 --> 00:28:56,100
apparatus uh God forbid they do or don't

658
00:29:00,470 --> 00:28:57,539
work together

659
00:29:02,450 --> 00:29:00,480
um so I don't know that's a good point

660
00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:02,460
and we've got to kind of acknowledge the

661
00:29:06,529 --> 00:29:04,320
subtle side of this as well if you know

662
00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:06,539
say same 40 Seven Something anonymous

663
00:29:10,970 --> 00:29:08,159
question Roswell

664
00:29:12,830 --> 00:29:10,980
um and a small group of people take five

665
00:29:14,810 --> 00:29:12,840
people you know got together and they

666
00:29:16,490 --> 00:29:14,820
started studying this stuff their

667
00:29:18,590 --> 00:29:16,500
understanding of the physics that comes

668
00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:18,600
from that essentially 50 years later

669
00:29:22,850 --> 00:29:20,880
makes them a breakaway civilization they

670
00:29:24,289 --> 00:29:22,860
are not living like us anymore because

671
00:29:26,510 --> 00:29:24,299
they have access to that technology

672
00:29:28,730 --> 00:29:26,520
right so we we don't necessarily need

673
00:29:30,649 --> 00:29:28,740
like this what can the hypothesis where

674
00:29:32,570 --> 00:29:30,659
people are living in you know a shielded

675
00:29:34,370 --> 00:29:32,580
bubble and hiding in plain sight they

676
00:29:36,289 --> 00:29:34,380
could be a very very small group of

677
00:29:37,850 --> 00:29:36,299
people uh doing that kind of stuff there

678
00:29:39,830 --> 00:29:37,860
was a really good graphic novel called I

679
00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:39,840
think it was the Manhattan Project and

680
00:29:43,970 --> 00:29:42,480
it kind of said you know what if we got

681
00:29:45,710 --> 00:29:43,980
all the world's kind of preeminent

682
00:29:48,169 --> 00:29:45,720
scientists together and just gave them a

683
00:29:51,110 --> 00:29:48,179
bunch of money and let them go you know

684
00:29:53,210 --> 00:29:51,120
hammer and Tom on physics and where that

685
00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:53,220
led you know was in a very short amount

686
00:29:56,330 --> 00:29:54,480
of time they were jumping around through

687
00:29:58,250 --> 00:29:56,340
wormholes and stuff like that not saying

688
00:30:00,769 --> 00:29:58,260
that that's happened but it really

689
00:30:03,470 --> 00:30:00,779
painted a picture of them essentially

690
00:30:05,389 --> 00:30:03,480
not really being humans as we consider

691
00:30:07,250 --> 00:30:05,399
them now this is what I really love

692
00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:07,260
about the AI stuff that's kind of coming

693
00:30:11,330 --> 00:30:09,600
out now you know it's people are kind of

694
00:30:13,370 --> 00:30:11,340
saying well is it just a pattern

695
00:30:14,750 --> 00:30:13,380
recognition machine and it's putting the

696
00:30:16,010 --> 00:30:14,760
Miniver up to ourselves because a lot of

697
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:16,020
people have rightly pointed out well

698
00:30:19,789 --> 00:30:18,480
isn't that what humans are we learn a

699
00:30:21,590 --> 00:30:19,799
bunch of information we apply the

700
00:30:24,409 --> 00:30:21,600
pattern recognition and we react to it

701
00:30:26,409 --> 00:30:24,419
so these questions about you know what

702
00:30:28,850 --> 00:30:26,419
is AI why does awareness what is

703
00:30:30,529 --> 00:30:28,860
extraterrestrial life they all hold a

704
00:30:33,590 --> 00:30:30,539
mirror up to us to kind of say you know

705
00:30:35,269 --> 00:30:33,600
what what does it mean to be human uh

706
00:30:36,830 --> 00:30:35,279
and and I think that that's the most

707
00:30:41,330 --> 00:30:36,840
exciting aspect of this going forward

708
00:30:43,789 --> 00:30:41,340
for me is is you know defining ourselves

709
00:30:45,529 --> 00:30:43,799
ah I did it again I keep I keep going

710
00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:45,539
full screen to myself sorry buddy you

711
00:30:50,090 --> 00:30:47,760
made a good a good point there and I uh

712
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:50,100
stole your thunder by showing my stupid

713
00:30:51,870 --> 00:30:51,600
huge face

714
00:30:53,210 --> 00:30:51,880
um

715
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:53,220
[Music]

716
00:30:57,409 --> 00:30:55,440
I I lost my train of thought no you're

717
00:31:00,590 --> 00:30:57,419
right I think this this phenomenon

718
00:31:02,930 --> 00:31:00,600
always always always says more about us

719
00:31:06,409 --> 00:31:02,940
than I think what is actually out there

720
00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:06,419
and it does make us uh self-reflect and

721
00:31:11,029 --> 00:31:08,640
it puts the mirror back on us and I'm

722
00:31:14,450 --> 00:31:11,039
all for that honestly like it

723
00:31:17,510 --> 00:31:14,460
invigorates us our most ambitious

724
00:31:21,169 --> 00:31:17,520
scientists to reach further to take more

725
00:31:22,909 --> 00:31:21,179
risks and um and usually those risks are

726
00:31:26,269 --> 00:31:22,919
for the better when it comes to the

727
00:31:28,669 --> 00:31:26,279
advancement of technology so usually

728
00:31:30,049 --> 00:31:28,679
usually yeah and there is the knife side

729
00:31:31,130 --> 00:31:30,059
that comes from holding up that mirror

730
00:31:33,710 --> 00:31:31,140
as well to kind of you know everyone

731
00:31:35,149 --> 00:31:33,720
thinks we're a warmonger and species in

732
00:31:36,649 --> 00:31:35,159
a certain way yeah sure we are but

733
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:36,659
they're more the decisions of the

734
00:31:40,850 --> 00:31:39,120
elected officials you go around you go

735
00:31:42,590 --> 00:31:40,860
outside you start talking to people most

736
00:31:43,610 --> 00:31:42,600
people just want to live happy lives and

737
00:31:46,010 --> 00:31:43,620
want to give other people the

738
00:31:47,269 --> 00:31:46,020
opportunity to do that as well uh I

739
00:31:50,510 --> 00:31:47,279
would say we're a kind of pretty

740
00:31:51,649 --> 00:31:50,520
peaceful species aside from uh you know

741
00:31:52,850 --> 00:31:51,659
when you kind of get these small

742
00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:52,860
disparate groups that become

743
00:31:56,570 --> 00:31:54,960
totalitarian and things like that makes

744
00:31:58,610 --> 00:31:56,580
you wonder what we'd look like if we had

745
00:32:01,310 --> 00:31:58,620
a space civilization uh you know

746
00:32:04,190 --> 00:32:01,320
self-sufficient how the politics of that

747
00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:04,200
kind of system would go what would that

748
00:32:08,450 --> 00:32:06,000
look like would it get a democracy or

749
00:32:09,710 --> 00:32:08,460
would they you know be resulting to

750
00:32:11,510 --> 00:32:09,720
cannibalism when they ran out of

751
00:32:14,090 --> 00:32:11,520
resources it's a really interesting

752
00:32:15,649 --> 00:32:14,100
question it is those are the

753
00:32:16,690 --> 00:32:15,659
hypotheticals that keep me up at night

754
00:32:19,850 --> 00:32:16,700
man

755
00:32:21,169 --> 00:32:19,860
uh let's move on let's move on to our

756
00:32:22,970 --> 00:32:21,179
next story

757
00:32:25,010 --> 00:32:22,980
um and first of all I want to thank uh

758
00:32:28,430 --> 00:32:25,020
James Craig and Jazz Shaw for the super

759
00:32:30,409 --> 00:32:28,440
chats guys really appreciate the support

760
00:32:32,149 --> 00:32:30,419
um all the money like I said always goes

761
00:32:34,310 --> 00:32:32,159
right back into the show make it bigger

762
00:32:37,789 --> 00:32:34,320
and better Dan and I aren't spending

763
00:32:40,430 --> 00:32:37,799
that money on uh on caramel macchiatos I

764
00:32:42,529 --> 00:32:40,440
can tell you that much

765
00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:42,539
um Dan our next one

766
00:32:49,970 --> 00:32:47,039
we have got let me get it in here

767
00:32:53,269 --> 00:32:49,980
um how do I do this

768
00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:53,279
boom there we go uh Americans for safe

769
00:32:57,889 --> 00:32:56,399
Aerospace launches uh we learned about

770
00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:57,899
this recently

771
00:33:02,930 --> 00:33:00,720
um I believe First from Politico a a

772
00:33:05,630 --> 00:33:02,940
piece that Ryan Graves had written

773
00:33:09,409 --> 00:33:05,640
um he recently launched Americans for

774
00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:09,419
safe Aerospace ASA a new advocacy no

775
00:33:15,789 --> 00:33:13,440
what a new advocacy Organization for

776
00:33:18,110 --> 00:33:15,799
Aerospace safety and National Security

777
00:33:19,970 --> 00:33:18,120
ASA will support pilots and other

778
00:33:22,970 --> 00:33:19,980
Aerospace professionals who are

779
00:33:25,310 --> 00:33:22,980
reporting UAP their goal is to demand

780
00:33:27,470 --> 00:33:25,320
more disclosure from public officials

781
00:33:29,690 --> 00:33:27,480
about the significant safety and

782
00:33:32,289 --> 00:33:29,700
national security problems they will

783
00:33:35,509 --> 00:33:32,299
provide credible voices public education

784
00:33:40,490 --> 00:33:35,519
Grassroots activism and lobbying on

785
00:33:42,470 --> 00:33:40,500
Capitol Hill to get answers about UAP

786
00:33:44,870 --> 00:33:42,480
um what do you think of this man just

787
00:33:48,470 --> 00:33:44,880
when we thought Ryan Graves was kind of

788
00:33:50,870 --> 00:33:48,480
um not done but he he had kind of hit

789
00:33:52,970 --> 00:33:50,880
his um his Plateau with the merge

790
00:33:54,350 --> 00:33:52,980
podcast and this committee that he was

791
00:33:57,289 --> 00:33:54,360
working with

792
00:34:00,169 --> 00:33:57,299
um to kind of educate the public uh

793
00:34:01,430 --> 00:34:00,179
first question is this different from

794
00:34:03,049 --> 00:34:01,440
that committee that he had been

795
00:34:04,850 --> 00:34:03,059
establishing I believe it was with

796
00:34:07,070 --> 00:34:04,860
narcap maybe

797
00:34:09,109 --> 00:34:07,080
um or working with them

798
00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:09,119
um do you know anything about that is

799
00:34:12,589 --> 00:34:10,560
this different

800
00:34:14,210 --> 00:34:12,599
yeah I would say this is different this

801
00:34:16,490 --> 00:34:14,220
is more of a Lobby group that's going to

802
00:34:20,149 --> 00:34:16,500
be interfacing with with politicians in

803
00:34:21,950 --> 00:34:20,159
DC so we're essentially looking at you

804
00:34:24,169 --> 00:34:21,960
know and this this is removed from the

805
00:34:26,389 --> 00:34:24,179
kind of you know like that shift that we

806
00:34:28,609 --> 00:34:26,399
had from UFO to UAP and left a lot of

807
00:34:30,349 --> 00:34:28,619
the baggage behind uh I think this is

808
00:34:31,849 --> 00:34:30,359
that kind of approach you know you look

809
00:34:33,829 --> 00:34:31,859
at that board there you know with Haley

810
00:34:35,570 --> 00:34:33,839
with Brian bender and the other two guys

811
00:34:36,889 --> 00:34:35,580
there there are some new faces there and

812
00:34:39,050 --> 00:34:36,899
they don't all subscribe to the

813
00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:39,060
Extraterrestrial hypothesis the bottom

814
00:34:42,770 --> 00:34:41,040
line is that these guys are lobbying to

815
00:34:45,169 --> 00:34:42,780
kind of say hey there's something there

816
00:34:46,609 --> 00:34:45,179
our sky is unsecure you kind of proved

817
00:34:48,409 --> 00:34:46,619
it yourselves by doing the whole

818
00:34:50,450 --> 00:34:48,419
shooting down of these objects and not

819
00:34:51,649 --> 00:34:50,460
talking about it so we need a better

820
00:34:53,690 --> 00:34:51,659
approach here we need a better

821
00:34:56,089 --> 00:34:53,700
interagency approach and essentially

822
00:34:59,089 --> 00:34:56,099
what they're advocating for is what

823
00:35:02,470 --> 00:34:59,099
Canada is just authorized to go ahead

824
00:35:04,849 --> 00:35:02,480
right right and again like

825
00:35:06,770 --> 00:35:04,859
my dream is that the whole five eyes

826
00:35:10,670 --> 00:35:06,780
like you said are gonna all get together

827
00:35:12,050 --> 00:35:10,680
on this and have just one huge mega five

828
00:35:12,910 --> 00:35:12,060
eyes

829
00:35:16,190 --> 00:35:12,920
um

830
00:35:18,410 --> 00:35:16,200
yes there we go there we go

831
00:35:20,990 --> 00:35:18,420
um that is the dream that is the dream

832
00:35:22,849 --> 00:35:21,000
dude running Graves is killing it right

833
00:35:26,030 --> 00:35:22,859
now I'm telling you like this guy just

834
00:35:27,530 --> 00:35:26,040
kind of took the ball and ran with it um

835
00:35:30,410 --> 00:35:27,540
what do you think of this guy's

836
00:35:33,290 --> 00:35:30,420
trajectory and the second question for

837
00:35:35,690 --> 00:35:33,300
you the kind of big controversy or

838
00:35:37,970 --> 00:35:35,700
debate goes back to

839
00:35:41,390 --> 00:35:37,980
um a lot of the Skeptics saying this guy

840
00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:41,400
never even actually saw a UFO

841
00:35:44,750 --> 00:35:42,240
um

842
00:35:46,730 --> 00:35:44,760
but apparently in the media they're

843
00:35:48,710 --> 00:35:46,740
claiming that he did so

844
00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:48,720
let's cover that first what do you make

845
00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:50,400
of that whole controversy do you think

846
00:35:53,630 --> 00:35:51,839
it even matters

847
00:35:55,069 --> 00:35:53,640
um let's get your thoughts on that let's

848
00:35:56,810 --> 00:35:55,079
clear that up

849
00:35:58,190 --> 00:35:56,820
so this is actually really interesting I

850
00:36:00,829 --> 00:35:58,200
brought this up on Twitter the other day

851
00:36:02,450 --> 00:36:00,839
uh curse Joe mango was going to be

852
00:36:04,130 --> 00:36:02,460
talking to Ryan and he said hey you know

853
00:36:05,870 --> 00:36:04,140
what what do you want me to ask him and

854
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:05,880
I asked him to to clear up this point

855
00:36:11,089 --> 00:36:08,160
like did he see a UAP I know the answer

856
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:11,099
to that Ryan Graves has said you know he

857
00:36:15,410 --> 00:36:13,920
didn't see one but in his Squadron a

858
00:36:16,490 --> 00:36:15,420
bunch of people did they saw them on

859
00:36:18,290 --> 00:36:16,500
radar

860
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:18,300
um they would go out hunting essentially

861
00:36:22,910 --> 00:36:20,640
UAP sightings that's how prevalent these

862
00:36:26,089 --> 00:36:22,920
things were so even though Ryan Didn't

863
00:36:29,630 --> 00:36:26,099
Have Eyes on with it he still has

864
00:36:32,510 --> 00:36:29,640
very very in-depth experience being

865
00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:32,520
around these UAP and the reason I wanted

866
00:36:35,569 --> 00:36:34,079
code to ask him about it was to just

867
00:36:36,950 --> 00:36:35,579
clear that up essentially because like

868
00:36:38,750 --> 00:36:36,960
you say a lot of the media are saying

869
00:36:41,690 --> 00:36:38,760
that Ryan saw these things

870
00:36:43,670 --> 00:36:41,700
um Ryan saw the videos essentially uh

871
00:36:46,130 --> 00:36:43,680
but like I say it doesn't negate the

872
00:36:47,810 --> 00:36:46,140
fact that everyone surrounding him seems

873
00:36:49,730 --> 00:36:47,820
to have had encounters with these things

874
00:36:52,849 --> 00:36:49,740
and he's the only guy right now outside

875
00:36:54,530 --> 00:36:52,859
of the service able to talk about this

876
00:36:56,030 --> 00:36:54,540
Ryan is a really good person to have in

877
00:36:58,849 --> 00:36:56,040
this position because what it means is

878
00:37:00,349 --> 00:36:58,859
essentially as these other Pilots that

879
00:37:01,310 --> 00:37:00,359
were in the I think was the red rippers

880
00:37:04,490 --> 00:37:01,320
right

881
00:37:06,589 --> 00:37:04,500
um as they leave service who are they

882
00:37:08,270 --> 00:37:06,599
going to speak to random people like us

883
00:37:10,849 --> 00:37:08,280
or are they going to go on a place like

884
00:37:12,829 --> 00:37:10,859
merged and sit down with a guy that they

885
00:37:15,050 --> 00:37:12,839
know knows all the senses knows all of

886
00:37:16,550 --> 00:37:15,060
the systems knows all of the you know

887
00:37:18,170 --> 00:37:16,560
the the protocols and things like that

888
00:37:21,170 --> 00:37:18,180
and really go in depth about it

889
00:37:24,650 --> 00:37:21,180
personally based on the the interview

890
00:37:26,210 --> 00:37:24,660
with um Lex Redman that Brian did uh you

891
00:37:28,010 --> 00:37:26,220
know half of that was just about his

892
00:37:30,650 --> 00:37:28,020
experience flight his expertise it was

893
00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:30,660
the same to Dave fraver uh and they were

894
00:37:33,710 --> 00:37:31,920
the most interesting parts for me

895
00:37:35,630 --> 00:37:33,720
because establishing those bonafides

896
00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:35,640
kind of realizing that these are the

897
00:37:39,170 --> 00:37:37,680
people that when the president presses

898
00:37:41,569 --> 00:37:39,180
that red button these are the people

899
00:37:43,970 --> 00:37:41,579
that go flying out there to sort these

900
00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:43,980
things out to figure out these problems

901
00:37:49,130 --> 00:37:46,800
um right now if we had say the pilots

902
00:37:50,930 --> 00:37:49,140
coming forward from the the shootdowns

903
00:37:53,210 --> 00:37:50,940
that happened a few weeks ago it would

904
00:37:55,130 --> 00:37:53,220
shed so much light on that situation

905
00:37:58,190 --> 00:37:55,140
could we just be able to answer so many

906
00:38:01,130 --> 00:37:58,200
questions so it's going to be great at

907
00:38:04,370 --> 00:38:01,140
some point in the future for

908
00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:04,380
Ryan's you know crewmates to to go on to

909
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:06,000
that podcast to go to these

910
00:38:09,770 --> 00:38:08,160
organizations and provide briefings and

911
00:38:12,170 --> 00:38:09,780
things like that to to the people that

912
00:38:13,310 --> 00:38:12,180
can really get this ball moving and when

913
00:38:16,069 --> 00:38:13,320
I say people that can get this ball

914
00:38:18,650 --> 00:38:16,079
moving we're talking just to be clear a

915
00:38:20,750 --> 00:38:18,660
bipartisan effort you know not not much

916
00:38:22,730 --> 00:38:20,760
is bipartisan these days yet this

917
00:38:24,890 --> 00:38:22,740
doesn't seem to be controversial and and

918
00:38:26,569 --> 00:38:24,900
a lot of the media are slowly starting

919
00:38:29,109 --> 00:38:26,579
to wake up to it even to the point where

920
00:38:32,569 --> 00:38:29,119
Neil deGrasse Tyson is coming around

921
00:38:34,609 --> 00:38:32,579
finally oh my God I I've totally like

922
00:38:37,849 --> 00:38:34,619
changed my mind on that guy I was like

923
00:38:40,010 --> 00:38:37,859
digging in deep into like the the hate

924
00:38:43,490 --> 00:38:40,020
fan club of him but um he's coming

925
00:38:46,010 --> 00:38:43,500
around I I'm I'm happy to see it and um

926
00:38:48,829 --> 00:38:46,020
that's what we need from our scientists

927
00:38:51,349 --> 00:38:48,839
is an open mind on this topic I mean

928
00:38:54,170 --> 00:38:51,359
it's just and it's awesome it's awesome

929
00:38:56,510 --> 00:38:54,180
that we have people like him these huge

930
00:38:58,970 --> 00:38:56,520
kind of spokespeople for the topic it's

931
00:39:01,790 --> 00:38:58,980
who mainstream media goes to When the

932
00:39:03,950 --> 00:39:01,800
UFO thing comes up and every time we see

933
00:39:06,349 --> 00:39:03,960
oh Neil deGrasse Tyson commenting next

934
00:39:08,270 --> 00:39:06,359
on this we're all like oh God damn it

935
00:39:10,430 --> 00:39:08,280
why

936
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:10,440
you might as well have Mick West up

937
00:39:15,530 --> 00:39:13,440
there but I don't know man hey he had

938
00:39:17,210 --> 00:39:15,540
some uh I I'd recommend people watch The

939
00:39:18,770 --> 00:39:17,220
Joe Rogan shows with him because once

940
00:39:20,329 --> 00:39:18,780
deGrasse Tyson gets chatting and

941
00:39:21,890 --> 00:39:20,339
elaborates you know once they're not

942
00:39:23,089 --> 00:39:21,900
just sound bites of him going oh it's

943
00:39:24,410 --> 00:39:23,099
probably not extra threshold but they

944
00:39:26,450 --> 00:39:24,420
should look anyway

945
00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:26,460
um he gets into areas like they were

946
00:39:30,710 --> 00:39:28,320
talking about what a photosynthesis

947
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:30,720
based life intelligent life form coming

948
00:39:35,089 --> 00:39:33,119
to us would look like and it would be

949
00:39:36,349 --> 00:39:35,099
horrified as cutting down forests and

950
00:39:39,050 --> 00:39:36,359
things like that you know we will be

951
00:39:41,150 --> 00:39:39,060
committing genocide to it so I I really

952
00:39:43,790 --> 00:39:41,160
love kind of trying to step outside the

953
00:39:45,530 --> 00:39:43,800
box of how humans see themselves and and

954
00:39:47,089 --> 00:39:45,540
you know kind of saying okay what would

955
00:39:48,349 --> 00:39:47,099
life think of us again it's holding that

956
00:39:49,609 --> 00:39:48,359
mirror up right and kind of saying well

957
00:39:51,890 --> 00:39:49,619
what do we want to project into the

958
00:39:54,349 --> 00:39:51,900
universe do we want to contribute to the

959
00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:54,359
Dark Forest ideas and be a sniper in the

960
00:39:57,230 --> 00:39:55,680
trees waiting for something to give out

961
00:39:59,750 --> 00:39:57,240
a signal and destroying it because it

962
00:40:02,810 --> 00:39:59,760
can take our resources or do we want to

963
00:40:04,550 --> 00:40:02,820
pour out compassion and love and go down

964
00:40:06,770 --> 00:40:04,560
fighting for that reason you know what's

965
00:40:08,569 --> 00:40:06,780
more meaningful to us

966
00:40:10,270 --> 00:40:08,579
second one please please please please

967
00:40:14,450 --> 00:40:10,280
please please please please please

968
00:40:17,390 --> 00:40:14,460
oh awesome man uh any less final words

969
00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:17,400
on the Ryan Graves ASA story here before

970
00:40:20,750 --> 00:40:18,960
we move on

971
00:40:22,370 --> 00:40:20,760
um only so there's a paragraph at the

972
00:40:23,810 --> 00:40:22,380
end that really stood out to me that I I

973
00:40:26,270 --> 00:40:23,820
think kind of underlines the whole thing

974
00:40:27,770 --> 00:40:26,280
uh Ryan wrote If the phenomena I witness

975
00:40:29,810 --> 00:40:27,780
with my own eyes and that's not in

976
00:40:31,849 --> 00:40:29,820
person that's on the senses uh turns out

977
00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:31,859
to be foreign drones they pose an urgent

978
00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:33,599
threat to National Security and Essay

979
00:40:37,550 --> 00:40:35,760
safety if they have something else it

980
00:40:39,770 --> 00:40:37,560
must be a scientific priority to find

981
00:40:41,630 --> 00:40:39,780
out I think that's a you know a micro

982
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:41,640
moment from Ryan that's exactly where

983
00:40:46,730 --> 00:40:43,200
we're at and that's what we should be

984
00:40:49,730 --> 00:40:46,740
realizing amen bringing it all back to

985
00:40:51,650 --> 00:40:49,740
science like I said I I hoped this would

986
00:40:53,329 --> 00:40:51,660
be the year of science when it comes to

987
00:40:55,609 --> 00:40:53,339
UFOs and

988
00:40:57,710 --> 00:40:55,619
all I can hope for man is that we moved

989
00:41:00,410 --> 00:40:57,720
on from shooting down balloons and we're

990
00:41:03,710 --> 00:41:00,420
now going to be moving on to um shooting

991
00:41:07,310 --> 00:41:03,720
our cameras at unidentified objects

992
00:41:10,730 --> 00:41:07,320
instead uh well let's talk about

993
00:41:13,849 --> 00:41:10,740
something that is not unidentified but

994
00:41:16,430 --> 00:41:13,859
some people thought they were and that

995
00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:16,440
is our next story here um that you

996
00:41:22,130 --> 00:41:18,960
brought to me actually uh this is pretty

997
00:41:27,530 --> 00:41:22,140
fun and interesting Venus Jupiter

998
00:41:30,710 --> 00:41:27,540
conjunction Sparks slew of UFO reports

999
00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:30,720
um this kind of started on the heels of

1000
00:41:36,589 --> 00:41:34,800
a uh a tick tock video that went viral

1001
00:41:38,890 --> 00:41:36,599
um the nights that this happened then so

1002
00:41:41,150 --> 00:41:38,900
I actually had the video pulled up here

1003
00:41:43,370 --> 00:41:41,160
really quickly

1004
00:41:45,770 --> 00:41:43,380
um this poor woman she probably got so

1005
00:41:48,109 --> 00:41:45,780
much Flack for this she was just excited

1006
00:41:50,210 --> 00:41:48,119
and curious so let me go ahead and play

1007
00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:50,220
that right now

1008
00:42:01,849 --> 00:41:57,530
[Music]

1009
00:42:01,859 --> 00:42:05,810
so bizarre

1010
00:42:05,820 --> 00:42:10,510
people what is this

1011
00:42:16,670 --> 00:42:13,670
uh I love it I love it

1012
00:42:18,950 --> 00:42:16,680
um so on March 1st and March 2nd Venus

1013
00:42:21,530 --> 00:42:18,960
and Jupiter were easily visible in the

1014
00:42:23,510 --> 00:42:21,540
post sunset Skies marking the closest

1015
00:42:24,730 --> 00:42:23,520
meeting of our two brightest planets

1016
00:42:28,849 --> 00:42:24,740
since

1017
00:42:32,750 --> 00:42:28,859
2015. and there won't be a better and

1018
00:42:34,970 --> 00:42:32,760
more visible show until 2039 however

1019
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:34,980
this planetary conjunction caught a lot

1020
00:42:39,290 --> 00:42:37,440
of people off guard and tons of reports

1021
00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:39,300
and photos for taking of people thinking

1022
00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:43,440
these could be UFOs and one of those

1023
00:42:49,609 --> 00:42:47,040
images on the far right there I believe

1024
00:42:51,589 --> 00:42:49,619
it is far left yeah right I don't know

1025
00:42:53,930 --> 00:42:51,599
um it's yours that's you down in the

1026
00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:53,940
corner on the rooftop nonetheless yeah

1027
00:42:58,609 --> 00:42:56,160
photo man so you actually got to see

1028
00:43:00,410 --> 00:42:58,619
this conjunction yeah and you know what

1029
00:43:02,089 --> 00:43:00,420
it surprised me at those two because I I

1030
00:43:03,230 --> 00:43:02,099
didn't know that it was happening and I

1031
00:43:04,910 --> 00:43:03,240
looked up at the sky and I'm always

1032
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:04,920
looking at the night sky

1033
00:43:07,970 --> 00:43:06,240
um and I was just like what the hell is

1034
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:07,980
that nothing's that close and you know

1035
00:43:12,829 --> 00:43:09,839
they're really bright as well

1036
00:43:14,990 --> 00:43:12,839
um and when I say that close so so this

1037
00:43:17,150 --> 00:43:15,000
is a really good opportunity I would say

1038
00:43:18,890 --> 00:43:17,160
to to educate we need to realize that

1039
00:43:21,290 --> 00:43:18,900
when we say you know we're living in the

1040
00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:21,300
21st century not the whole planet is you

1041
00:43:26,510 --> 00:43:22,800
know not everyone has the same level of

1042
00:43:28,130 --> 00:43:26,520
of Education or or ability so that woman

1043
00:43:29,329 --> 00:43:28,140
in that Tick Tock video there I don't

1044
00:43:31,670 --> 00:43:29,339
think she should be shamed for not

1045
00:43:34,430 --> 00:43:31,680
knowing uh she essentially had a

1046
00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:34,440
question was amazed by something and

1047
00:43:38,690 --> 00:43:36,240
luckily we're actually able to give her

1048
00:43:40,250 --> 00:43:38,700
an answer a lot of people thought that

1049
00:43:43,730 --> 00:43:40,260
they were moving too which I thought was

1050
00:43:46,010 --> 00:43:43,740
interesting and and it made me wonder if

1051
00:43:47,390 --> 00:43:46,020
uh basically when you look at things in

1052
00:43:49,010 --> 00:43:47,400
the sky without a frame of reference

1053
00:43:51,890 --> 00:43:49,020
it's kind of hard to track where they

1054
00:43:53,630 --> 00:43:51,900
are and if any there's any clouds in the

1055
00:43:55,309 --> 00:43:53,640
sky as well a cloud moving over

1056
00:43:57,710 --> 00:43:55,319
something at quite high speed if the

1057
00:43:59,630 --> 00:43:57,720
wind speed is higher you know wind speed

1058
00:44:01,670 --> 00:43:59,640
is different at different levels so it

1059
00:44:03,349 --> 00:44:01,680
could be really fast up in the sky while

1060
00:44:05,569 --> 00:44:03,359
you don't feel any wind on the ground at

1061
00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:05,579
all so that would be someone to say well

1062
00:44:09,230 --> 00:44:07,200
you know there wasn't any wind speed the

1063
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:09,240
clouds weren't moving and these objects

1064
00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:10,880
were gone between the clouds like crazy

1065
00:44:15,230 --> 00:44:13,680
uh especially if they're looking back on

1066
00:44:16,670 --> 00:44:15,240
a video that they took or something like

1067
00:44:18,770 --> 00:44:16,680
that so

1068
00:44:20,450 --> 00:44:18,780
like I say it's worth not disparaging

1069
00:44:22,309 --> 00:44:20,460
people kind of learning new information

1070
00:44:23,630 --> 00:44:22,319
but congratulating them because they're

1071
00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:23,640
one of you you know probably a whole

1072
00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:24,960
bunch of people are about to learn about

1073
00:44:29,569 --> 00:44:27,359
space and when we say that these objects

1074
00:44:31,069 --> 00:44:29,579
were close they weren't really close uh

1075
00:44:33,050 --> 00:44:31,079
you know these these planets were really

1076
00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:33,060
far apart it's just our perspective that

1077
00:44:35,870 --> 00:44:34,319
made them look like they were next to

1078
00:44:38,930 --> 00:44:35,880
each other

1079
00:44:42,910 --> 00:44:38,940
exactly I know it reminds me so much of

1080
00:44:45,650 --> 00:44:42,920
uh the two moons on Tatooine and stars

1081
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:45,660
it's really cool man I didn't think of

1082
00:44:50,450 --> 00:44:48,720
that I love that angle uh I know I miss

1083
00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:50,460
everything man I missed the conjunction

1084
00:44:55,730 --> 00:44:53,040
I missed the northern lights in Scotland

1085
00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:55,740
recently I just I I'm not looking up

1086
00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:57,839
enough as a UFO podcaster and someone

1087
00:45:02,270 --> 00:45:00,000
who hosts a show called Somewhere in the

1088
00:45:04,250 --> 00:45:02,280
skies I really should be looking up in

1089
00:45:06,290 --> 00:45:04,260
the skies I think it's it's Richard

1090
00:45:08,270 --> 00:45:06,300
Dolan he always says that that one of

1091
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:08,280
the patterns of UFO sightings is that

1092
00:45:12,170 --> 00:45:09,839
people are outside having a cigarette a

1093
00:45:14,450 --> 00:45:12,180
walking a dog or something and you know

1094
00:45:16,190 --> 00:45:14,460
in those moments they their situations

1095
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:16,200
which led themselves well to just

1096
00:45:19,490 --> 00:45:18,000
standing in a spot and staring at the

1097
00:45:21,349 --> 00:45:19,500
night sky while your dog's taking a pee

1098
00:45:22,730 --> 00:45:21,359
on the you know the field or something

1099
00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:22,740
like that

1100
00:45:26,329 --> 00:45:24,960
um so there's a lot of kind of casual

1101
00:45:28,309 --> 00:45:26,339
stargazing that happens like that

1102
00:45:30,050 --> 00:45:28,319
whereas yeah for someone like yourself

1103
00:45:31,550 --> 00:45:30,060
you maybe don't have time to kind of go

1104
00:45:33,829 --> 00:45:31,560
and sit out in the streets of Edinburgh

1105
00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:33,839
and depending on the lights from the

1106
00:45:38,710 --> 00:45:35,520
city that you're in as well you may not

1107
00:45:43,670 --> 00:45:41,809
I walked the entire city man looking for

1108
00:45:46,970 --> 00:45:43,680
the northern lights every angle I could

1109
00:45:48,890 --> 00:45:46,980
go from every direction and in the light

1110
00:45:52,309 --> 00:45:48,900
pollution even in a place like Edinburgh

1111
00:45:53,930 --> 00:45:52,319
is a lot and it's unfortunate but um

1112
00:45:55,670 --> 00:45:53,940
it's just kind of the way it is I saw

1113
00:45:57,950 --> 00:45:55,680
someone in the chat said they saw the

1114
00:46:00,290 --> 00:45:57,960
conjunction from Tennessee I believe it

1115
00:46:02,510 --> 00:46:00,300
was that's pretty awesome our Lord

1116
00:46:04,910 --> 00:46:02,520
Ludacris said in the Tri-Cities so

1117
00:46:08,030 --> 00:46:04,920
that's cool um and you saw from Mexico

1118
00:46:09,710 --> 00:46:08,040
right from Mexico yeah so in a few

1119
00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:09,720
places so I was just in Cancun and now

1120
00:46:12,410 --> 00:46:11,040
I'm in Tulum just a little bit further

1121
00:46:14,089 --> 00:46:12,420
down the coast and I could still see it

1122
00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:14,099
and as I was walking straight last night

1123
00:46:16,490 --> 00:46:15,359
I could see people looking up or you

1124
00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:16,500
know people taking pictures and things

1125
00:46:20,809 --> 00:46:17,760
like that and I just thought to myself

1126
00:46:23,210 --> 00:46:20,819
like do these people know what this is

1127
00:46:24,770 --> 00:46:23,220
um or are they about to you know pull up

1128
00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:24,780
a thing say you know there are UFOs in

1129
00:46:28,309 --> 00:46:26,640
the sky and it just made me really

1130
00:46:30,589 --> 00:46:28,319
curious because we all have these unique

1131
00:46:32,270 --> 00:46:30,599
perspectives and and similar to how

1132
00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:32,280
we're saying to the government hey you

1133
00:46:35,089 --> 00:46:33,599
guys need to work together to figure

1134
00:46:36,890 --> 00:46:35,099
this out instead of disparaging each

1135
00:46:38,270 --> 00:46:36,900
other uh the same's true here you know

1136
00:46:40,370 --> 00:46:38,280
in the public it's an educational

1137
00:46:43,130 --> 00:46:40,380
opportunity stuff like the Northern

1138
00:46:45,829 --> 00:46:43,140
Lights is crazy I I was lucky to see

1139
00:46:47,569 --> 00:46:45,839
them in Iceland uh I went there for a

1140
00:46:49,309 --> 00:46:47,579
week and

1141
00:46:50,809 --> 00:46:49,319
on the very last night there was

1142
00:46:52,130 --> 00:46:50,819
literally a hole in the clouds above

1143
00:46:53,450 --> 00:46:52,140
where I was staying

1144
00:46:54,770 --> 00:46:53,460
um and through the hole in the clouds we

1145
00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:54,780
were able to watch this incredible light

1146
00:46:59,630 --> 00:46:56,880
show but it was purely by chance and

1147
00:47:01,730 --> 00:46:59,640
even when you know the the kind of

1148
00:47:02,630 --> 00:47:01,740
Guides Online say oh yeah there's

1149
00:47:06,050 --> 00:47:02,640
probably going to be Northern Lights

1150
00:47:08,329 --> 00:47:06,060
it's still 50 50. uh so it's hard to

1151
00:47:10,370 --> 00:47:08,339
kind of pin this stuff down in a really

1152
00:47:13,370 --> 00:47:10,380
repeatable way

1153
00:47:15,410 --> 00:47:13,380
yeah absolutely but but I would

1154
00:47:17,150 --> 00:47:15,420
emphasize get yourself you know go go on

1155
00:47:19,609 --> 00:47:17,160
the App Stores for your phones just

1156
00:47:21,230 --> 00:47:19,619
search Sky Guide or Star Guide

1157
00:47:22,910 --> 00:47:21,240
um and it'll come up stellarium is a

1158
00:47:24,410 --> 00:47:22,920
really good one I use one called Sky guy

1159
00:47:25,490 --> 00:47:24,420
just because it's really easy to use and

1160
00:47:26,809 --> 00:47:25,500
very clear

1161
00:47:27,890 --> 00:47:26,819
um just have it in your pocket and when

1162
00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:27,900
you see something that you don't know

1163
00:47:31,250 --> 00:47:29,760
about uh you go like when I saw the

1164
00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:31,260
conjunction I just popped that bad boy

1165
00:47:34,550 --> 00:47:32,880
out had a look and I was just like oh

1166
00:47:36,770 --> 00:47:34,560
wow that's really cool and I took a few

1167
00:47:38,630 --> 00:47:36,780
pictures and and yeah it's cool to see

1168
00:47:40,190 --> 00:47:38,640
because like you say I like you pointed

1169
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:40,200
out this stuff doesn't happen often

1170
00:47:46,250 --> 00:47:43,440
right exactly and I think more than

1171
00:47:48,589 --> 00:47:46,260
anything you said it best uh this is a

1172
00:47:50,390 --> 00:47:48,599
moment to educate the public and if a

1173
00:47:52,910 --> 00:47:50,400
thousand UFO reports come in and we find

1174
00:47:54,470 --> 00:47:52,920
out it was this conjunction it's just a

1175
00:47:56,569 --> 00:47:54,480
thousand more people who now learned

1176
00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:56,579
that conjunction is a thing and that you

1177
00:48:01,670 --> 00:47:59,280
can precisely find amazingly beautiful

1178
00:48:03,109 --> 00:48:01,680
things happening in our skies that are

1179
00:48:04,970 --> 00:48:03,119
explainable

1180
00:48:07,069 --> 00:48:04,980
um and and look at these photos as well

1181
00:48:09,530 --> 00:48:07,079
right like these uh so I've got an

1182
00:48:12,109 --> 00:48:09,540
iPhone 14 pro it's it's quite a you know

1183
00:48:14,569 --> 00:48:12,119
a decent on this thing

1184
00:48:16,370 --> 00:48:14,579
um and they're dots in the sky still

1185
00:48:18,530 --> 00:48:16,380
it's really hard to see so I think this

1186
00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:18,540
also speaks to that kind of whole oh

1187
00:48:20,990 --> 00:48:19,920
well everyone has a smartphone in their

1188
00:48:23,030 --> 00:48:21,000
pocket why don't we have pictures of

1189
00:48:24,770 --> 00:48:23,040
UFOs uh because there's lots of lights

1190
00:48:26,569 --> 00:48:24,780
in the sky that's why it's really hard

1191
00:48:27,770 --> 00:48:26,579
to figure anything out by a smartphone

1192
00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:27,780
camera they designed to take a picture

1193
00:48:34,130 --> 00:48:29,520
of your dogs and friends and Landscapes

1194
00:48:35,950 --> 00:48:34,140
not UFOs exactly exactly or my beers I

1195
00:48:39,890 --> 00:48:35,960
like to say beers

1196
00:48:42,710 --> 00:48:39,900
so there's that too but um well okay so

1197
00:48:45,530 --> 00:48:42,720
discoveries in the sky let's move to

1198
00:48:47,390 --> 00:48:45,540
discoveries on the ground with our last

1199
00:48:49,790 --> 00:48:47,400
news story of the week here Dan before

1200
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:49,800
we move to podcast highlights of the

1201
00:48:54,410 --> 00:48:52,319
week everyone's favorite section of

1202
00:48:56,690 --> 00:48:54,420
somewhere in the live stream now

1203
00:48:59,930 --> 00:48:56,700
um we have scientists find hidden

1204
00:49:02,450 --> 00:48:59,940
Corridor inside the Great Pyramid of

1205
00:49:04,910 --> 00:49:02,460
Giza a little background here guys

1206
00:49:06,290 --> 00:49:04,920
Egyptian Antiquities officials have

1207
00:49:08,450 --> 00:49:06,300
announced that researchers have

1208
00:49:10,490 --> 00:49:08,460
identified a previously undiscovered

1209
00:49:12,650 --> 00:49:10,500
Corridor inside the Great Pyramid of

1210
00:49:14,630 --> 00:49:12,660
Giza situated just behind the main

1211
00:49:17,210 --> 00:49:14,640
entrance of the pyramid the newly

1212
00:49:21,109 --> 00:49:17,220
discovered nine meter long Corridor was

1213
00:49:23,630 --> 00:49:21,119
found by the scan pyramids project which

1214
00:49:28,130 --> 00:49:23,640
has been using a non-invasive advanced

1215
00:49:30,770 --> 00:49:28,140
form of image imagery since 2015 defined

1216
00:49:33,050 --> 00:49:30,780
previously unknown voids within uh

1217
00:49:36,530 --> 00:49:33,060
Chambers across the three pyramids on

1218
00:49:38,569 --> 00:49:36,540
the Giza plateau uh let me see what else

1219
00:49:42,530 --> 00:49:38,579
I have here the discovery was made using

1220
00:49:44,329 --> 00:49:42,540
a method called muon tomography which

1221
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:44,339
involves I hope I'm saying that right

1222
00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:47,520
involves detecting a type of sub-atomic

1223
00:49:52,130 --> 00:49:48,720
particle

1224
00:49:54,710 --> 00:49:52,140
uh known as a muon that is created when

1225
00:49:57,710 --> 00:49:54,720
cosmic rays slam into Earth's atmosphere

1226
00:50:00,290 --> 00:49:57,720
once created muons only last a fraction

1227
00:50:02,630 --> 00:50:00,300
of a second fortunately for researchers

1228
00:50:05,990 --> 00:50:02,640
muons produced by cosmic rays are moving

1229
00:50:08,089 --> 00:50:06,000
at nearly light speed as a result a

1230
00:50:10,910 --> 00:50:08,099
large number of muons slam into and even

1231
00:50:13,130 --> 00:50:10,920
pass through the Earth by tracking these

1232
00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:13,140
decaying muons as they pass through the

1233
00:50:17,329 --> 00:50:15,359
stone of the Great Pyramid researchers

1234
00:50:21,170 --> 00:50:17,339
can peer deeper into the structure's

1235
00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:21,180
interior than ever before last paragraph

1236
00:50:26,809 --> 00:50:24,240
here according to Mustafa waziri head of

1237
00:50:28,430 --> 00:50:26,819
Egypt Supreme Council of Antiquities the

1238
00:50:30,530 --> 00:50:28,440
newly discovered Corridor was likely

1239
00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:30,540
constructed to relieve the weight of the

1240
00:50:35,690 --> 00:50:32,880
pyramid on the main entrance which is

1241
00:50:38,030 --> 00:50:35,700
seven meters below or possibly on

1242
00:50:39,349 --> 00:50:38,040
another chamber that is yet to be

1243
00:50:42,589 --> 00:50:39,359
discovered

1244
00:50:45,470 --> 00:50:42,599
even today we're discovering new stuff

1245
00:50:47,390 --> 00:50:45,480
in the pyramids man this is incredible

1246
00:50:49,549 --> 00:50:47,400
especially with the technology we're

1247
00:50:51,230 --> 00:50:49,559
using now muon what the hell is that I

1248
00:50:52,670 --> 00:50:51,240
feel like I'm in Quantum domini I feel

1249
00:50:54,950 --> 00:50:52,680
like I'm in a Marvel movie right now

1250
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:54,960
particle subatomic

1251
00:50:59,930 --> 00:50:56,880
um this is how is how archeology is

1252
00:51:01,970 --> 00:50:59,940
being done today without damaging

1253
00:51:04,549 --> 00:51:01,980
um any of these incredibly beautiful

1254
00:51:06,170 --> 00:51:04,559
structures so yeah what do you make of

1255
00:51:08,750 --> 00:51:06,180
this entire story

1256
00:51:10,730 --> 00:51:08,760
so this has a few implications it's so

1257
00:51:12,290 --> 00:51:10,740
so interesting I can see Elena in the

1258
00:51:14,569 --> 00:51:12,300
chat there Elena's actually heading to

1259
00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:14,579
Egypt very soon so I'm sure we'll see

1260
00:51:18,589 --> 00:51:16,800
some posts from her on on social media

1261
00:51:21,049 --> 00:51:18,599
kind of showing us some of this stuff

1262
00:51:22,790 --> 00:51:21,059
and what it looks like in Egypt whether

1263
00:51:24,589 --> 00:51:22,800
they're incorporating it's into tours

1264
00:51:26,390 --> 00:51:24,599
and things like that already

1265
00:51:30,349 --> 00:51:26,400
um but this was they found the chasm in

1266
00:51:31,790 --> 00:51:30,359
like 2017. so went out in 2023 and the

1267
00:51:33,829 --> 00:51:31,800
research papers are only just hitting

1268
00:51:35,750 --> 00:51:33,839
and you know this is coming out say what

1269
00:51:39,890 --> 00:51:35,760
you want about zahi hawas who kind of

1270
00:51:42,530 --> 00:51:39,900
looks after the the archeology in uh in

1271
00:51:44,710 --> 00:51:42,540
Egypt but

1272
00:51:47,809 --> 00:51:44,720
this was released it's not kept secret

1273
00:51:49,430 --> 00:51:47,819
but it's taken a long time to come

1274
00:51:51,049 --> 00:51:49,440
through you know if you follow this

1275
00:51:52,309 --> 00:51:51,059
stuff then then this is something you'll

1276
00:51:54,410 --> 00:51:52,319
remember being announced the scan

1277
00:51:56,450 --> 00:51:54,420
pyramids team but you know told everyone

1278
00:51:58,670 --> 00:51:56,460
hey there's a void here but it wasn't

1279
00:52:00,530 --> 00:51:58,680
until they could uh you know probe the

1280
00:52:02,329 --> 00:52:00,540
pyramid with an endoscope that they kind

1281
00:52:04,130 --> 00:52:02,339
of could show us pictures of this kind

1282
00:52:06,890 --> 00:52:04,140
of inner chamber it makes you wonder

1283
00:52:09,770 --> 00:52:06,900
what else is there and it's another void

1284
00:52:11,569 --> 00:52:09,780
that is you know we all know is that and

1285
00:52:13,730 --> 00:52:11,579
we all want kind of uncovered because I

1286
00:52:17,630 --> 00:52:13,740
think it was Edgar Casey who spoke about

1287
00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:17,640
uh a void beneath the the Sphinx that

1288
00:52:21,470 --> 00:52:19,440
contain masses of knowledge and things

1289
00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:21,480
like that there is a void there but

1290
00:52:25,309 --> 00:52:23,760
we've never gone into it and a bunch of

1291
00:52:27,890 --> 00:52:25,319
entrances were covered up and things

1292
00:52:30,650 --> 00:52:27,900
like that so I wonder if uh you know

1293
00:52:33,410 --> 00:52:30,660
Zach us and Egypt are kind of unrolling

1294
00:52:35,690 --> 00:52:33,420
this story slowly and and a kind of have

1295
00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:35,700
discovered more than they think but also

1296
00:52:42,049 --> 00:52:38,640
it speaks to the level of obfuscation uh

1297
00:52:43,970 --> 00:52:42,059
in archeology right so just just to kind

1298
00:52:46,190 --> 00:52:43,980
of throw in here you know this pyramid

1299
00:52:48,770 --> 00:52:46,200
we think of it as a tomb that's that's

1300
00:52:50,750 --> 00:52:48,780
the mainstream story it's a tomb however

1301
00:52:52,490 --> 00:52:50,760
they never found a body in there they

1302
00:52:54,170 --> 00:52:52,500
never found anything that indicated it's

1303
00:52:55,910 --> 00:52:54,180
a tomb it's just kind of a habit for us

1304
00:52:57,470 --> 00:52:55,920
to go oh well you know it's probably a

1305
00:52:59,089 --> 00:52:57,480
tomb then uh since you know it was

1306
00:53:00,829 --> 00:52:59,099
pretty big and you wouldn't build this

1307
00:53:04,670 --> 00:53:00,839
unless you were trying to respect

1308
00:53:06,410 --> 00:53:04,680
someone uh but there's no there's nobody

1309
00:53:08,329 --> 00:53:06,420
in there it was never found they think

1310
00:53:10,549 --> 00:53:08,339
the grave kind of diggers came and stole

1311
00:53:12,890 --> 00:53:10,559
everything but would they steal every

1312
00:53:14,569 --> 00:53:12,900
single thing would there be inscriptions

1313
00:53:18,530 --> 00:53:14,579
in the world saying you know this is the

1314
00:53:21,950 --> 00:53:18,540
burial chamber of XYZ probably right

1315
00:53:24,109 --> 00:53:21,960
um so the it all lends itself to this

1316
00:53:26,750 --> 00:53:24,119
kind of enigma of the pyramids of of

1317
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:26,760
Giza where we don't really know what

1318
00:53:31,130 --> 00:53:29,040
they're for and a lot of the a lot of

1319
00:53:33,410 --> 00:53:31,140
the evidence tends to point towards them

1320
00:53:35,510 --> 00:53:33,420
being something that's repurposed and

1321
00:53:37,010 --> 00:53:35,520
that was built earlier than we think you

1322
00:53:38,329 --> 00:53:37,020
know there are these primordial Mounds

1323
00:53:41,329 --> 00:53:38,339
under the pyramids that they were kind

1324
00:53:43,309 --> 00:53:41,339
of built over so we wonder if there was

1325
00:53:45,890 --> 00:53:43,319
an earlier civilization that for some

1326
00:53:47,690 --> 00:53:45,900
reason revered this place built this

1327
00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:47,700
kind of small amount then thousands of

1328
00:53:50,329 --> 00:53:49,200
years later someone else came in and

1329
00:53:52,730 --> 00:53:50,339
kind of said oh this is pretty cool

1330
00:53:54,410 --> 00:53:52,740
let's build again and just to kind of

1331
00:53:56,690 --> 00:53:54,420
point to a precedent for this when the

1332
00:53:58,490 --> 00:53:56,700
Conquistadors came to Mexico they

1333
00:54:01,069 --> 00:53:58,500
actually stomped out a lot of the Sacred

1334
00:54:02,750 --> 00:54:01,079
places of the Maya here but what they

1335
00:54:05,390 --> 00:54:02,760
did was build churches on top of them

1336
00:54:07,670 --> 00:54:05,400
instead so you know they put their image

1337
00:54:09,650 --> 00:54:07,680
on top of them but they've repurposed

1338
00:54:11,410 --> 00:54:09,660
the sacred place so there is precedent

1339
00:54:14,809 --> 00:54:11,420
for this happening

1340
00:54:18,130 --> 00:54:14,819
interesting wow I had no idea yeah it's

1341
00:54:22,190 --> 00:54:18,140
just like almost a uh recycling of

1342
00:54:23,569 --> 00:54:22,200
places of uh Faith or worship

1343
00:54:25,609 --> 00:54:23,579
um even if they're not worshiping the

1344
00:54:28,130 --> 00:54:25,619
same gods that that's fascinating man

1345
00:54:29,809 --> 00:54:28,140
absolutely and there's a lot in Egypt

1346
00:54:31,309 --> 00:54:29,819
and Elena will probably post this stuff

1347
00:54:33,290 --> 00:54:31,319
too I really hope she does because a lot

1348
00:54:35,329 --> 00:54:33,300
of the older stuff in Egypt has no

1349
00:54:37,309 --> 00:54:35,339
hieroglyphics on it whatsoever whoever

1350
00:54:39,650 --> 00:54:37,319
those people were and it's the more

1351
00:54:41,390 --> 00:54:39,660
complex stuff that has this kind of

1352
00:54:42,950 --> 00:54:41,400
characteristic as well whoever those

1353
00:54:44,809 --> 00:54:42,960
people were they didn't feel the need to

1354
00:54:46,490 --> 00:54:44,819
say I made this whereas then you have

1355
00:54:48,650 --> 00:54:46,500
people like Khufu coming along and kind

1356
00:54:50,210 --> 00:54:48,660
of inscribing graffiti onto the pyramid

1357
00:54:52,790 --> 00:54:50,220
to be like oh yeah I totally made this

1358
00:54:54,049 --> 00:54:52,800
guys yeah sure it's just wiping sweat

1359
00:54:56,870 --> 00:54:54,059
off let's go ahead and hoping no one

1360
00:54:58,370 --> 00:54:56,880
knows right right

1361
00:55:00,829 --> 00:54:58,380
love that

1362
00:55:02,270 --> 00:55:00,839
um let's we got a couple of comments on

1363
00:55:03,470 --> 00:55:02,280
this pyramid story people are really

1364
00:55:05,150 --> 00:55:03,480
digging it

1365
00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:05,160
um bill says I heard the pyramids have

1366
00:55:09,770 --> 00:55:07,920
some sort of Sonic thing going on and

1367
00:55:12,230 --> 00:55:09,780
then Ian said pyramids were ancient

1368
00:55:14,809 --> 00:55:12,240
power stations of some sort according to

1369
00:55:16,670 --> 00:55:14,819
according to Ancient Aliens and then

1370
00:55:18,770 --> 00:55:16,680
Bill also says pyramids have some sort

1371
00:55:21,410 --> 00:55:18,780
of sound resonance um yeah any of that

1372
00:55:22,790 --> 00:55:21,420
ring true to you Dan yeah absolutely you

1373
00:55:24,290 --> 00:55:22,800
know there are videos you can go on

1374
00:55:26,569 --> 00:55:24,300
YouTube and watch and I think a JF

1375
00:55:28,730 --> 00:55:26,579
Project Unity got to actually be part of

1376
00:55:31,490 --> 00:55:28,740
a resonance ceremony in the main chamber

1377
00:55:33,890 --> 00:55:31,500
and it can produce sounds that you can

1378
00:55:35,510 --> 00:55:33,900
hear through the rock as it carries and

1379
00:55:37,730 --> 00:55:35,520
the the structure seems to have been

1380
00:55:39,950 --> 00:55:37,740
built to carry this sound as far as it

1381
00:55:41,390 --> 00:55:39,960
goes and you can be essentially the

1382
00:55:43,670 --> 00:55:41,400
primordial Mount that I mentioned you

1383
00:55:46,250 --> 00:55:43,680
can be down below the pyramid by that

1384
00:55:48,650 --> 00:55:46,260
primordial Mound and hearing through

1385
00:55:50,450 --> 00:55:48,660
solid rock this kind of incredible

1386
00:55:52,490 --> 00:55:50,460
resonance as people chant in the main

1387
00:55:53,809 --> 00:55:52,500
chamber so you got to wonder you know

1388
00:55:54,530 --> 00:55:53,819
what this was for

1389
00:55:56,930 --> 00:55:54,540
um

1390
00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:56,940
the I think I forget the the guy's name

1391
00:56:00,049 --> 00:55:58,319
Christopher

1392
00:56:02,030 --> 00:56:00,059
it's gonna about me he works with

1393
00:56:03,890 --> 00:56:02,040
Uncharted x a lot at the YouTube channel

1394
00:56:05,569 --> 00:56:03,900
looking at these Christopher Dunn that's

1395
00:56:07,549 --> 00:56:05,579
his name he's an engineer

1396
00:56:09,530 --> 00:56:07,559
um what I really love about his approach

1397
00:56:11,690 --> 00:56:09,540
is he he goes to the pyramids as an

1398
00:56:13,790 --> 00:56:11,700
engineer with all the modern tools that

1399
00:56:15,710 --> 00:56:13,800
we have and kind of you know like a set

1400
00:56:17,450 --> 00:56:15,720
square or rulers and you know just basic

1401
00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:17,460
stuff and he kind of looks at some of

1402
00:56:21,230 --> 00:56:18,960
the marks on the rocks and kind of says

1403
00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:21,240
yeah this you you couldn't do this with

1404
00:56:26,390 --> 00:56:24,240
a you know a Dolomite pounding Stone

1405
00:56:28,010 --> 00:56:26,400
um this is something more this looks

1406
00:56:30,349 --> 00:56:28,020
like something more and this is a mind

1407
00:56:31,790 --> 00:56:30,359
of an engineer so I think we need to

1408
00:56:34,250 --> 00:56:31,800
start listening to these people in a

1409
00:56:35,930 --> 00:56:34,260
similar way with the UFO stuff we need

1410
00:56:38,270 --> 00:56:35,940
to listen to the people who have the

1411
00:56:41,150 --> 00:56:38,280
expertise to tell us that the mainstream

1412
00:56:43,970 --> 00:56:41,160
story is not what it seems to be

1413
00:56:47,690 --> 00:56:43,980
interesting

1414
00:56:49,130 --> 00:56:47,700
dalen says Ramsey's the Second Step his

1415
00:56:51,010 --> 00:56:49,140
name over almost everything the original

1416
00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:51,020
hashtag dude

1417
00:56:58,250 --> 00:56:54,240
that's so true so so true people taking

1418
00:57:00,770 --> 00:56:58,260
credit for everything oh man um yeah

1419
00:57:03,049 --> 00:57:00,780
really really fascinating story and Dan

1420
00:57:06,230 --> 00:57:03,059
you visited a pyramid recently too

1421
00:57:09,589 --> 00:57:06,240
didn't you yeah a number of them so so

1422
00:57:12,829 --> 00:57:09,599
I've been to Toyota cam I've been to

1423
00:57:14,750 --> 00:57:12,839
um edsner to Montauk band to a lot of

1424
00:57:16,250 --> 00:57:14,760
the areas around here and what's amazing

1425
00:57:18,589 --> 00:57:16,260
is that

1426
00:57:20,210 --> 00:57:18,599
like most things in life uh the the

1427
00:57:22,490 --> 00:57:20,220
answer seems to be somewhere between the

1428
00:57:25,130 --> 00:57:22,500
truth and the lie so we we often talk

1429
00:57:26,809 --> 00:57:25,140
about these kind of uh you know the

1430
00:57:28,190 --> 00:57:26,819
blocks in the walls that civilizations

1431
00:57:29,450 --> 00:57:28,200
would use that they wouldn't be

1432
00:57:31,250 --> 00:57:29,460
conventional shapes they're all really

1433
00:57:33,049 --> 00:57:31,260
unique shapes and how did they put them

1434
00:57:35,089 --> 00:57:33,059
together and things like this and having

1435
00:57:36,829 --> 00:57:35,099
got to witness these walls in person you

1436
00:57:38,990 --> 00:57:36,839
can actually see that behind that facade

1437
00:57:43,130 --> 00:57:39,000
that front part of the wall it's a mess

1438
00:57:46,010 --> 00:57:43,140
so there were questions as to as to how

1439
00:57:47,329 --> 00:57:46,020
well kind of media educates people about

1440
00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:47,339
this stuff

1441
00:57:51,470 --> 00:57:48,960
um like there are some things in Graham

1442
00:57:54,349 --> 00:57:51,480
Hancock's later series that I question

1443
00:57:56,030 --> 00:57:54,359
now because they're just they're

1444
00:57:58,190 --> 00:57:56,040
embellished a little bit based on what

1445
00:57:59,809 --> 00:57:58,200
I've seen in person so I would recommend

1446
00:58:01,130 --> 00:57:59,819
that people go out and visit these

1447
00:58:02,990 --> 00:58:01,140
places and get the information for

1448
00:58:05,630 --> 00:58:03,000
themselves and in some regards it's even

1449
00:58:07,130 --> 00:58:05,640
more fascinating so for example Chichen

1450
00:58:08,870 --> 00:58:07,140
Itza

1451
00:58:10,250 --> 00:58:08,880
um for what it's worth I wasn't first on

1452
00:58:12,170 --> 00:58:10,260
the place so much the first thing the

1453
00:58:15,950 --> 00:58:12,180
great greeted me there uh was a

1454
00:58:17,750 --> 00:58:15,960
Starbucks but they they have these ball

1455
00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:17,760
courts where the Maya would play this

1456
00:58:22,069 --> 00:58:20,400
game and in the game uh think of it kind

1457
00:58:24,829 --> 00:58:22,079
of like basketball but the Hoops on its

1458
00:58:27,290 --> 00:58:24,839
side on the wall and they would throw

1459
00:58:30,890 --> 00:58:27,300
this flaming ball that represented the

1460
00:58:33,530 --> 00:58:30,900
sun uh through the hole in the wall

1461
00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:33,540
um and that game had a number of

1462
00:58:38,089 --> 00:58:35,520
outcomes depending on the winner some

1463
00:58:40,730 --> 00:58:38,099
people thought that the losing team's

1464
00:58:41,870 --> 00:58:40,740
Captain would be killed afterwards they

1465
00:58:43,730 --> 00:58:41,880
would be sacrificed some people thought

1466
00:58:45,230 --> 00:58:43,740
that it was the winning teams Captain

1467
00:58:46,910 --> 00:58:45,240
because it was uh you know it was a

1468
00:58:48,770 --> 00:58:46,920
privilege to be sacrificed to the Gods

1469
00:58:50,089 --> 00:58:48,780
uh in those times and in those

1470
00:58:52,490 --> 00:58:50,099
civilizations

1471
00:58:54,650 --> 00:58:52,500
but the truth is we just don't know and

1472
00:58:56,990 --> 00:58:54,660
and I was very thankful that I had a

1473
00:59:00,289 --> 00:58:57,000
tour guide that said we just don't know

1474
00:59:01,789 --> 00:59:00,299
and we probably will never know so these

1475
00:59:04,190 --> 00:59:01,799
kind of things you kind of have to hold

1476
00:59:05,990 --> 00:59:04,200
like me and take seriously but at the

1477
00:59:09,289 --> 00:59:06,000
same time you know I'm stood there

1478
00:59:10,789 --> 00:59:09,299
looking at this this Dolomite uh you you

1479
00:59:12,410 --> 00:59:10,799
know oh sorry not don't like one but

1480
00:59:13,789 --> 00:59:12,420
just just this ball that would have been

1481
00:59:16,190 --> 00:59:13,799
on fire

1482
00:59:18,289 --> 00:59:16,200
um and

1483
00:59:20,030 --> 00:59:18,299
wondering you know these things weighed

1484
00:59:21,770 --> 00:59:20,040
about six kilograms and they were only

1485
00:59:24,410 --> 00:59:21,780
allowed to hit them with their hip or

1486
00:59:27,650 --> 00:59:24,420
elbow because of just how you know heavy

1487
00:59:29,450 --> 00:59:27,660
they were and then this hoop is three

1488
00:59:31,309 --> 00:59:29,460
times as high as the you know the

1489
00:59:33,230 --> 00:59:31,319
standard basketball hoop so I'm still

1490
00:59:35,150 --> 00:59:33,240
going to go in well how the hell did

1491
00:59:38,030 --> 00:59:35,160
they throw that up there you know with

1492
00:59:41,510 --> 00:59:38,040
their heads like what

1493
00:59:44,150 --> 00:59:41,520
oh that's that's hilarious man yeah not

1494
00:59:46,549 --> 00:59:44,160
not the um Mysteries you would really

1495
00:59:48,890 --> 00:59:46,559
expect by going there

1496
00:59:51,470 --> 00:59:48,900
um but yeah unless there you go that's

1497
00:59:54,170 --> 00:59:51,480
that's such a good point yeah

1498
00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:54,180
um ah amazing everyone is still talking

1499
00:59:58,370 --> 00:59:55,680
about it we could talk about pyramids

1500
01:00:00,170 --> 00:59:58,380
forever guys but we're gonna move on to

1501
01:00:02,630 --> 01:00:00,180
the second half of our discussion

1502
01:00:04,609 --> 01:00:02,640
tonight and that is podcast highlights

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01:00:06,770 --> 01:00:04,619
of the week but before we do that then

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01:00:09,950 --> 01:00:06,780
I'm gonna take just a brief commercial

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01:00:11,750 --> 01:00:09,960
break so we can reset the room

1506
01:00:13,910 --> 01:00:11,760
um grab some water if you need to

1507
01:00:16,370 --> 01:00:13,920
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01:00:21,609 --> 01:00:16,380
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[Music]

1522
01:01:09,650 --> 01:01:07,250
guys welcome back we are with Dan we're

1523
01:01:11,450 --> 01:01:09,660
back in the room on somewhere in the

1524
01:01:13,609 --> 01:01:11,460
live stream I'm so happy to have Dan

1525
01:01:16,190 --> 01:01:13,619
zetterstrom with me tonight guys he's

1526
01:01:18,289 --> 01:01:16,200
joining us from Mexico I'm in Scotland

1527
01:01:20,750 --> 01:01:18,299
we literally couldn't be much further

1528
01:01:22,730 --> 01:01:20,760
away from each other but

1529
01:01:25,430 --> 01:01:22,740
um I appreciate it so much man for you

1530
01:01:27,470 --> 01:01:25,440
coming on tonight and um hey we're even

1531
01:01:29,809 --> 01:01:27,480
covering in podcast highlights of the

1532
01:01:31,309 --> 01:01:29,819
week one of the shows that you are a

1533
01:01:33,530 --> 01:01:31,319
huge part of

1534
01:01:35,270 --> 01:01:33,540
um so we will get to that in a moment so

1535
01:01:37,370 --> 01:01:35,280
what we do with this section Den is I

1536
01:01:38,210 --> 01:01:37,380
play little clips from podcasts of the

1537
01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:38,220
week

1538
01:01:43,130 --> 01:01:41,040
um sometimes it's not you know exactly

1539
01:01:44,569 --> 01:01:43,140
the most current episode but it's ones

1540
01:01:45,589 --> 01:01:44,579
that have been in the last couple weeks

1541
01:01:47,690 --> 01:01:45,599
or whatnot

1542
01:01:50,329 --> 01:01:47,700
um so I'm gonna go ahead and play our

1543
01:01:51,650 --> 01:01:50,339
first one but before I do that we will

1544
01:01:52,549 --> 01:01:51,660
tease it here

1545
01:01:54,829 --> 01:01:52,559
um tonight we're going to be talking

1546
01:01:57,650 --> 01:01:54,839
about theories of everything that UFO

1547
01:02:00,410 --> 01:01:57,660
podcast weaponized and merge and on

1548
01:02:02,289 --> 01:02:00,420
theories of everything recently uh Kurt

1549
01:02:05,530 --> 01:02:02,299
Joe mango had Leslie King

1550
01:02:07,730 --> 01:02:05,540
and um she talked about everything

1551
01:02:10,190 --> 01:02:07,740
basically all of the work she's ever

1552
01:02:12,049 --> 01:02:10,200
done and um one of the clips that really

1553
01:02:13,849 --> 01:02:12,059
stood out to me was the definition of

1554
01:02:15,589 --> 01:02:13,859
UAP and trying to understand it

1555
01:02:16,789 --> 01:02:15,599
scientifically

1556
01:02:18,410 --> 01:02:16,799
um so I'm gonna go ahead and play that

1557
01:02:20,690 --> 01:02:18,420
clip briefly and we'll come back and

1558
01:02:23,390 --> 01:02:20,700
talk about it on the other side

1559
01:02:25,970 --> 01:02:23,400
where do you draw that long line I don't

1560
01:02:28,430 --> 01:02:25,980
know you know when is it a UAP and when

1561
01:02:30,950 --> 01:02:28,440
is it something else uh and I think

1562
01:02:33,230 --> 01:02:30,960
probably people have their own ways of

1563
01:02:34,270 --> 01:02:33,240
seeing that uh in terms of how they

1564
01:02:37,490 --> 01:02:34,280
personally

1565
01:02:40,250 --> 01:02:37,500
interpret what that term actually means

1566
01:02:42,650 --> 01:02:40,260
uh uh I think it's yeah I don't think we

1567
01:02:45,069 --> 01:02:42,660
have any set agreed upon

1568
01:02:48,910 --> 01:02:45,079
you know definition of what

1569
01:02:52,549 --> 01:02:48,920
characterizes an unidentified area

1570
01:02:54,770 --> 01:02:52,559
anomalous phenomenon and what doesn't

1571
01:02:57,950 --> 01:02:54,780
I mean just that term unidentified

1572
01:02:59,930 --> 01:02:57,960
anomalous phenomenon yeah that's you

1573
01:03:03,049 --> 01:02:59,940
know it's so broad we don't even have

1574
01:03:04,609 --> 01:03:03,059
Ariel in there anymore you know yeah so

1575
01:03:05,870 --> 01:03:04,619
that it's partly because they wanted to

1576
01:03:08,150 --> 01:03:05,880
be able to include the ones that go in

1577
01:03:11,630 --> 01:03:08,160
the water but it broadens it up to mean

1578
01:03:14,990 --> 01:03:11,640
who knows what right yeah

1579
01:03:17,390 --> 01:03:15,000
um so yeah it's just a fascinating a

1580
01:03:19,069 --> 01:03:17,400
fascinating question to ponder and

1581
01:03:20,890 --> 01:03:19,079
there's so many such a variety of

1582
01:03:23,089 --> 01:03:20,900
experiences that people have had

1583
01:03:24,470 --> 01:03:23,099
engaging with these things that you

1584
01:03:26,990 --> 01:03:24,480
don't know

1585
01:03:28,549 --> 01:03:27,000
even almost how to define it anymore

1586
01:03:30,049 --> 01:03:28,559
it's not like we're concerning with

1587
01:03:33,490 --> 01:03:30,059
physics with you can just get down to

1588
01:03:37,430 --> 01:03:35,450
opposite is happening with this it's

1589
01:03:39,109 --> 01:03:37,440
like it just gets less that way over

1590
01:03:41,329 --> 01:03:39,119
time although there's more data being

1591
01:03:43,130 --> 01:03:41,339
collected at the same time you know but

1592
01:03:45,710 --> 01:03:43,140
there's another dimension I think of the

1593
01:03:48,589 --> 01:03:45,720
phenomenon that's not you can't pin it

1594
01:03:50,750 --> 01:03:48,599
down it's just not something that it's

1595
01:03:53,990 --> 01:03:50,760
almost like science isn't the right tool

1596
01:03:56,690 --> 01:03:54,000
sometimes to even try and and capture

1597
01:03:59,710 --> 01:03:56,700
this it's beyond our capability at some

1598
01:04:07,609 --> 01:04:04,130
I loved that idea of science might not

1599
01:04:10,490 --> 01:04:07,619
be the tool to actually

1600
01:04:12,710 --> 01:04:10,500
Define or understand UAP what do you

1601
01:04:14,470 --> 01:04:12,720
think of that comment in first of all

1602
01:04:18,650 --> 01:04:14,480
it's an amazing comment because

1603
01:04:20,329 --> 01:04:18,660
essentially Science Now is half of kind

1604
01:04:21,710 --> 01:04:20,339
of what we know uh we've got to go back

1605
01:04:24,170 --> 01:04:21,720
to Galileo

1606
01:04:26,030 --> 01:04:24,180
and back then there were just so many

1607
01:04:28,549 --> 01:04:26,040
things on the table that it was hard to

1608
01:04:29,870 --> 01:04:28,559
know where to start so science started

1609
01:04:31,250 --> 01:04:29,880
tackling the things that were tangible

1610
01:04:33,049 --> 01:04:31,260
the things that we could measure

1611
01:04:34,370 --> 01:04:33,059
basically that's what science is it

1612
01:04:35,809 --> 01:04:34,380
tells us what's in the universe it

1613
01:04:37,190 --> 01:04:35,819
doesn't have any judgments or anything

1614
01:04:38,750 --> 01:04:37,200
like that of course you know there's

1615
01:04:40,370 --> 01:04:38,760
some wiggle room there because people's

1616
01:04:42,049 --> 01:04:40,380
buyers play into it and organizational

1617
01:04:44,329 --> 01:04:42,059
buyers plays into it and so on so forth

1618
01:04:46,789 --> 01:04:44,339
but science is meant to be objective and

1619
01:04:48,470 --> 01:04:46,799
it's meant to just measure things right

1620
01:04:50,750 --> 01:04:48,480
um we don't consider things like

1621
01:04:52,670 --> 01:04:50,760
philosophy uh

1622
01:04:55,730 --> 01:04:52,680
as part of science you know that's kind

1623
01:04:58,250 --> 01:04:55,740
of a Humanity subject yet the the kind

1624
01:04:59,630 --> 01:04:58,260
of questions that we start getting into

1625
01:05:01,849 --> 01:04:59,640
when we talk about things like

1626
01:05:03,950 --> 01:05:01,859
Consciousness uh things like you know

1627
01:05:06,589 --> 01:05:03,960
what is consciousness who are we why are

1628
01:05:08,870 --> 01:05:06,599
we here that's philosophy yet it's kind

1629
01:05:10,190 --> 01:05:08,880
of poured out from science so I totally

1630
01:05:12,470 --> 01:05:10,200
understand what Leslie's saying there

1631
01:05:14,569 --> 01:05:12,480
and and what Galileo did is he started

1632
01:05:17,210 --> 01:05:14,579
focusing on the things we could measure

1633
01:05:19,670 --> 01:05:17,220
um when he progressed science like crazy

1634
01:05:20,870 --> 01:05:19,680
but not without that kind of kicking and

1635
01:05:22,069 --> 01:05:20,880
screaming thing you know the Catholic

1636
01:05:23,510 --> 01:05:22,079
Church didn't like what he had to say

1637
01:05:25,069 --> 01:05:23,520
and locked him in a tower essentially

1638
01:05:26,630 --> 01:05:25,079
some people wouldn't even look through

1639
01:05:28,190 --> 01:05:26,640
his telescope even though he was like

1640
01:05:29,930 --> 01:05:28,200
this is how it works

1641
01:05:31,309 --> 01:05:29,940
um you know that it took a while for the

1642
01:05:33,410 --> 01:05:31,319
telescope itself to kind of go through

1643
01:05:37,030 --> 01:05:33,420
peer review and be respected by by those

1644
01:05:40,849 --> 01:05:37,040
organizations uh so yeah and

1645
01:05:42,650 --> 01:05:40,859
Leslie's that conversation uh went on to

1646
01:05:44,289 --> 01:05:42,660
some really interesting areas like the

1647
01:05:48,410 --> 01:05:44,299
afterlife and things like that because

1648
01:05:49,970 --> 01:05:48,420
how does science define is there an

1649
01:05:52,490 --> 01:05:49,980
afterlife again that's a philosophical

1650
01:05:54,829 --> 01:05:52,500
question but it's we're getting to those

1651
01:05:56,930 --> 01:05:54,839
kind of more subtle questions now and

1652
01:05:58,190 --> 01:05:56,940
things like psilocybin research talking

1653
01:06:01,309 --> 01:05:58,200
about

1654
01:06:04,010 --> 01:06:01,319
um you know Miracle experiences and and

1655
01:06:06,950 --> 01:06:04,020
touching the Divine and kind of uh there

1656
01:06:09,109 --> 01:06:06,960
was one experience where I saw

1657
01:06:10,910 --> 01:06:09,119
um on a show called uh Hamilton's

1658
01:06:13,430 --> 01:06:10,920
pharmacopia where he was looking at

1659
01:06:15,950 --> 01:06:13,440
ayahuesca and after the experience of

1660
01:06:17,809 --> 01:06:15,960
Ayahuasca he said before Ayahuasca I I

1661
01:06:20,390 --> 01:06:17,819
knew that love existed but it was kind

1662
01:06:22,370 --> 01:06:20,400
of this you know non-tangible thing it

1663
01:06:24,109 --> 01:06:22,380
was just something we spoke about but

1664
01:06:25,670 --> 01:06:24,119
afterwards he was like now I know that

1665
01:06:28,789 --> 01:06:25,680
it's something that I could measure if

1666
01:06:31,130 --> 01:06:28,799
only I could build the sensor so

1667
01:06:32,569 --> 01:06:31,140
science might not be the right tool

1668
01:06:34,490 --> 01:06:32,579
because it doesn't have the right tools

1669
01:06:37,370 --> 01:06:34,500
to apply to these problems

1670
01:06:40,370 --> 01:06:37,380
yeah it also kind of speaks to the

1671
01:06:43,190 --> 01:06:40,380
constraints you know in limitations that

1672
01:06:46,510 --> 01:06:43,200
Avi lope talked about yeah we don't even

1673
01:06:49,069 --> 01:06:46,520
have the the logic or the the

1674
01:06:51,950 --> 01:06:49,079
understanding of physics yet to truly

1675
01:06:54,289 --> 01:06:51,960
try to understand these phenomena so

1676
01:06:57,890 --> 01:06:54,299
yeah yeah it's interesting science is

1677
01:06:59,690 --> 01:06:57,900
but one tool to look at all of this

1678
01:07:02,329 --> 01:06:59,700
um was there anything else in this

1679
01:07:03,829 --> 01:07:02,339
Leslie Kane interview that really stood

1680
01:07:06,950 --> 01:07:03,839
out to you at all were you able to catch

1681
01:07:08,750 --> 01:07:06,960
the whole thing or uh yeah I was like I

1682
01:07:10,250 --> 01:07:08,760
I just love hearing Leslie speak about

1683
01:07:12,470 --> 01:07:10,260
things because she speaks about things

1684
01:07:14,930 --> 01:07:12,480
in terms of you know she's a journalist

1685
01:07:16,250 --> 01:07:14,940
and she wants tangible things that other

1686
01:07:18,349 --> 01:07:16,260
people can pick up and run with and

1687
01:07:21,410 --> 01:07:18,359
understand and you could see how

1688
01:07:23,750 --> 01:07:21,420
sensitive she got during the the section

1689
01:07:25,430 --> 01:07:23,760
on kind of ectoplasm and mediums and

1690
01:07:27,049 --> 01:07:25,440
things like that because a lot of people

1691
01:07:30,349 --> 01:07:27,059
aren't ready to hear this stuff but

1692
01:07:32,930 --> 01:07:30,359
peer-reviewed studies do exist and

1693
01:07:39,109 --> 01:07:32,940
it's

1694
01:07:40,370 --> 01:07:39,119
believe that you know the nine to five

1695
01:07:43,069 --> 01:07:40,380
daily life

1696
01:07:44,569 --> 01:07:43,079
isn't all there is whereas your whole

1697
01:07:46,309 --> 01:07:44,579
life that's what you're told you know

1698
01:07:47,510 --> 01:07:46,319
when you're a kid it's what are you

1699
01:07:49,010 --> 01:07:47,520
going to be when you're older because

1700
01:07:52,309 --> 01:07:49,020
you only have a finite amount of time

1701
01:07:53,569 --> 01:07:52,319
here if we had an eternity how how would

1702
01:07:55,370 --> 01:07:53,579
what are you going to be when you're

1703
01:07:57,230 --> 01:07:55,380
older how would that question change you

1704
01:07:58,670 --> 01:07:57,240
know when people kind of go eh I'm gonna

1705
01:07:59,930 --> 01:07:58,680
go and hang out with the animals and see

1706
01:08:01,490 --> 01:07:59,940
see what they have to say about the

1707
01:08:04,190 --> 01:08:01,500
world or would they carry on going to

1708
01:08:05,569 --> 01:08:04,200
work it's right it's a loaded gun no

1709
01:08:08,150 --> 01:08:05,579
question you know

1710
01:08:11,450 --> 01:08:08,160
absolutely it always goes back to kind

1711
01:08:13,250 --> 01:08:11,460
of that that that question of like would

1712
01:08:15,130 --> 01:08:13,260
you want to know when you're gonna die

1713
01:08:18,289 --> 01:08:15,140
and how would that influence your life

1714
01:08:20,510 --> 01:08:18,299
moving forward I I I asked myself that

1715
01:08:22,610 --> 01:08:20,520
question all the time I've even like

1716
01:08:24,829 --> 01:08:22,620
pondered writing scripts about it which

1717
01:08:28,249 --> 01:08:24,839
I know have probably been done many many

1718
01:08:31,130 --> 01:08:28,259
times before but um yeah it is it's a

1719
01:08:32,809 --> 01:08:31,140
very interesting question and um the

1720
01:08:37,070 --> 01:08:32,819
other thing that stood out to me in that

1721
01:08:39,289 --> 01:08:37,080
interview uh was you know uh uh Kurt

1722
01:08:40,910 --> 01:08:39,299
asking Leslie like if the public knew

1723
01:08:43,010 --> 01:08:40,920
what you knew

1724
01:08:45,470 --> 01:08:43,020
um what would uh what would they think

1725
01:08:47,570 --> 01:08:45,480
like like what would they think of all

1726
01:08:49,669 --> 01:08:47,580
this and you know she kind of gave that

1727
01:08:51,829 --> 01:08:49,679
answer that Elizondo gave a while back

1728
01:08:52,789 --> 01:08:51,839
when asked the same question like I I

1729
01:08:55,669 --> 01:08:52,799
think it would be a lot of

1730
01:08:58,130 --> 01:08:55,679
self-reflection and um it would be

1731
01:08:59,150 --> 01:08:58,140
somber and it would be a huge wake-up

1732
01:09:01,910 --> 01:08:59,160
call

1733
01:09:03,890 --> 01:09:01,920
um so it's not so much like oh my God if

1734
01:09:06,709 --> 01:09:03,900
they knew what I knew that aliens exist

1735
01:09:08,689 --> 01:09:06,719
like it would just be amazing disclosure

1736
01:09:10,309 --> 01:09:08,699
disclosure that doesn't seem to be the

1737
01:09:12,890 --> 01:09:10,319
response response that any of these

1738
01:09:14,269 --> 01:09:12,900
people claim to have Insider knowledge

1739
01:09:16,849 --> 01:09:14,279
of any of this stuff and Leslie doesn't

1740
01:09:18,709 --> 01:09:16,859
claim to have a lot of Insider knowledge

1741
01:09:20,329 --> 01:09:18,719
I should make that clear but the stuff

1742
01:09:23,329 --> 01:09:20,339
she has been told and things she's

1743
01:09:25,370 --> 01:09:23,339
learned uh she said the same thing and

1744
01:09:28,249 --> 01:09:25,380
um that that truly makes me wonder it's

1745
01:09:30,950 --> 01:09:28,259
a little troubling but again like any

1746
01:09:33,169 --> 01:09:30,960
uncertainty or any huge paradigm shift

1747
01:09:37,010 --> 01:09:33,179
is going to come with a lot of struggle

1748
01:09:39,050 --> 01:09:37,020
and fear and um and and kind of changing

1749
01:09:41,269 --> 01:09:39,060
everything that's what a paradigm shift

1750
01:09:42,309 --> 01:09:41,279
is so yeah yeah yeah

1751
01:09:44,570 --> 01:09:42,319
um

1752
01:09:46,610 --> 01:09:44,580
I would implore people to go back and

1753
01:09:48,289 --> 01:09:46,620
look at that so two events we've had in

1754
01:09:49,430 --> 01:09:48,299
the past decade uh maybe just outside

1755
01:09:52,130 --> 01:09:49,440
the decade

1756
01:09:54,289 --> 01:09:52,140
um but they both inform kind of how

1757
01:09:56,450 --> 01:09:54,299
people react to these Paradigm shifts so

1758
01:09:58,189 --> 01:09:56,460
one being covet you know look at the

1759
01:10:00,050 --> 01:09:58,199
reactions there people didn't react in

1760
01:10:01,970 --> 01:10:00,060
one way some people ran out and took all

1761
01:10:03,410 --> 01:10:01,980
the toilet paper which is hilarious when

1762
01:10:05,150 --> 01:10:03,420
you like when you think about it like

1763
01:10:07,490 --> 01:10:05,160
that's the concern

1764
01:10:08,510 --> 01:10:07,500
um but at the same time some people you

1765
01:10:10,010 --> 01:10:08,520
know they were compassionate and they

1766
01:10:11,450 --> 01:10:10,020
helped other people people and they

1767
01:10:13,130 --> 01:10:11,460
tried to get through it as a community

1768
01:10:14,689 --> 01:10:13,140
and a team

1769
01:10:16,189 --> 01:10:14,699
um other people took advantage you know

1770
01:10:17,390 --> 01:10:16,199
the politicians in the UK were just

1771
01:10:19,790 --> 01:10:17,400
finding out now through a bunch of

1772
01:10:22,729 --> 01:10:19,800
leaked messages that they utterly just

1773
01:10:23,990 --> 01:10:22,739
took the took the Mickey during that

1774
01:10:25,790 --> 01:10:24,000
whole thing and just took as much money

1775
01:10:27,770 --> 01:10:25,800
as they could so you have all these

1776
01:10:29,270 --> 01:10:27,780
different levels of reactions to it then

1777
01:10:31,490 --> 01:10:29,280
the other one and I find this a much

1778
01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:31,500
more human event uh because of the

1779
01:10:38,750 --> 01:10:36,000
reactions is the when Hawaii had the

1780
01:10:41,209 --> 01:10:38,760
nuclear missile alert and for a full

1781
01:10:42,830 --> 01:10:41,219
like 30 odd minutes the people in Hawaii

1782
01:10:44,390 --> 01:10:42,840
thought they were just they were about

1783
01:10:47,870 --> 01:10:44,400
to die that they were going to be wiped

1784
01:10:50,750 --> 01:10:47,880
out and the reactions of those people to

1785
01:10:52,490 --> 01:10:50,760
to that income and missile uh heroin

1786
01:10:54,770 --> 01:10:52,500
some of them are really funny some you

1787
01:10:57,110 --> 01:10:54,780
know want one guy

1788
01:10:59,030 --> 01:10:57,120
um he started Gathering water because he

1789
01:11:01,130 --> 01:10:59,040
was like I need I need water like I need

1790
01:11:03,229 --> 01:11:01,140
to survive so he started filling up

1791
01:11:05,030 --> 01:11:03,239
these containers on his driveway and

1792
01:11:06,410 --> 01:11:05,040
then once the missile alert you know the

1793
01:11:09,290 --> 01:11:06,420
false kind of

1794
01:11:10,610 --> 01:11:09,300
or the apology came through he had to

1795
01:11:12,050 --> 01:11:10,620
call his boss and work and say I'm sorry

1796
01:11:13,790 --> 01:11:12,060
I can't get my car off the drive it's

1797
01:11:15,169 --> 01:11:13,800
blocked with all these waterfalls and

1798
01:11:17,870 --> 01:11:15,179
you know that's one of the funny ones

1799
01:11:20,930 --> 01:11:17,880
but then you have mothers putting their

1800
01:11:22,729 --> 01:11:20,940
kids in storm drains out of desperation

1801
01:11:24,950 --> 01:11:22,739
um one of the most beautiful stories I

1802
01:11:26,510 --> 01:11:24,960
heard was uh two people in an office

1803
01:11:28,189 --> 01:11:26,520
first thing in the morning when this

1804
01:11:29,030 --> 01:11:28,199
thing came through not everyone was in

1805
01:11:30,110 --> 01:11:29,040
yeah

1806
01:11:32,030 --> 01:11:30,120
um and they were strangers they'd never

1807
01:11:33,890 --> 01:11:32,040
met before and their decision was to sit

1808
01:11:35,510 --> 01:11:33,900
on the roof and hold hands and just be

1809
01:11:37,490 --> 01:11:35,520
there in silence and watch this missile

1810
01:11:39,290 --> 01:11:37,500
come down and and I thought that was you

1811
01:11:41,750 --> 01:11:39,300
know just a really profound moment of

1812
01:11:44,149 --> 01:11:41,760
realizing what's really important when

1813
01:11:46,550 --> 01:11:44,159
everything kind of hits the fan is our

1814
01:11:48,890 --> 01:11:46,560
connections wow

1815
01:11:51,470 --> 01:11:48,900
that's powerful yeah it kind of reminds

1816
01:11:53,570 --> 01:11:51,480
me of uh towards the end of Rogue one

1817
01:11:57,290 --> 01:11:53,580
you know when the planet's about to be

1818
01:11:59,030 --> 01:11:57,300
completely uh just decimated and they

1819
01:12:01,850 --> 01:11:59,040
just stand there and

1820
01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:01,860
watch the inevitable yeah um what can

1821
01:12:09,950 --> 01:12:04,320
you do you know yeah well the end of Toy

1822
01:12:13,850 --> 01:12:11,990
I knew we could somehow bring this back

1823
01:12:16,430 --> 01:12:13,860
to cinema and they will save by aliens

1824
01:12:19,610 --> 01:12:16,440
right let's just throw that out let's we

1825
01:12:21,530 --> 01:12:19,620
gotta yes let's let's leave that pin on

1826
01:12:23,209 --> 01:12:21,540
that one um it was a fantastic interview

1827
01:12:24,649 --> 01:12:23,219
with Leslie I highly suggest people

1828
01:12:28,610 --> 01:12:24,659
check it out

1829
01:12:31,490 --> 01:12:28,620
um the next one was one that you are a

1830
01:12:33,530 --> 01:12:31,500
part of and that is that UFO podcast we

1831
01:12:37,310 --> 01:12:33,540
had Andy mcgrillin interviewing Terry

1832
01:12:40,130 --> 01:12:37,320
Lovelace the experiencer and um in this

1833
01:12:42,229 --> 01:12:40,140
clip that Andy put out uh he uh Terry

1834
01:12:44,870 --> 01:12:42,239
described his implant from his knee from

1835
01:12:46,490 --> 01:12:44,880
an alleged alien abduction so I'm gonna

1836
01:12:48,890 --> 01:12:46,500
go ahead and play that brief clip for

1837
01:12:52,090 --> 01:12:48,900
you guys now and we'll come back on the

1838
01:12:54,709 --> 01:12:52,100
other side and talk about that

1839
01:12:56,810 --> 01:12:54,719
there's an object a square object about

1840
01:12:58,450 --> 01:12:56,820
the size of a fingernail with two wires

1841
01:13:01,310 --> 01:12:58,460
attached

1842
01:13:03,530 --> 01:13:01,320
that's above my right knee and then

1843
01:13:07,250 --> 01:13:03,540
below my right knee in my calf muscle

1844
01:13:09,649 --> 01:13:07,260
was a collection of bones in a floret

1845
01:13:13,310 --> 01:13:09,659
pattern symmetrical

1846
01:13:14,270 --> 01:13:13,320
and uh the radiologist had no idea what

1847
01:13:16,070 --> 01:13:14,280
those were

1848
01:13:18,590 --> 01:13:16,080
he said you know you had to be in some

1849
01:13:20,209 --> 01:13:18,600
kind of accident you know you can to get

1850
01:13:21,590 --> 01:13:20,219
this for an object above your knee I

1851
01:13:24,110 --> 01:13:21,600
don't know how that got into your body

1852
01:13:25,550 --> 01:13:24,120
there has to be a scar and we got into

1853
01:13:27,050 --> 01:13:25,560
this back and forth because I told him

1854
01:13:29,090 --> 01:13:27,060
doctor I don't have a scar I've never

1855
01:13:32,330 --> 01:13:29,100
injured that any other skin knee as a

1856
01:13:36,729 --> 01:13:32,340
kid and he examined my knee and there is

1857
01:13:40,490 --> 01:13:36,739
no Scar and he looked

1858
01:13:42,229 --> 01:13:40,500
confounded he looked stunned and I said

1859
01:13:44,390 --> 01:13:42,239
well doctor let me ask you how often is

1860
01:13:45,890 --> 01:13:44,400
it that you see someone with a foreign

1861
01:13:48,830 --> 01:13:45,900
object like this in their body and

1862
01:13:50,510 --> 01:13:48,840
they're not b a corresponding scar

1863
01:13:52,970 --> 01:13:50,520
it's never he said I've been a

1864
01:13:54,830 --> 01:13:52,980
radiologist for 23 years he says I have

1865
01:13:57,410 --> 01:13:54,840
no idea how this thing got into your

1866
01:14:01,130 --> 01:13:58,790
so

1867
01:14:02,630 --> 01:14:01,140
I asked him show me the x-rays he showed

1868
01:14:07,130 --> 01:14:02,640
me the x-rays

1869
01:14:10,310 --> 01:14:07,140
and I was just absolutely devastated

1870
01:14:13,250 --> 01:14:10,320
um because I was trying to I thought

1871
01:14:17,030 --> 01:14:13,260
that I had lived this all out

1872
01:14:19,430 --> 01:14:17,040
and it was for the most part over with

1873
01:14:20,870 --> 01:14:19,440
um I had no intention to telling anybody

1874
01:14:23,209 --> 01:14:20,880
anything

1875
01:14:25,430 --> 01:14:23,219
but seeing these things just validated

1876
01:14:28,910 --> 01:14:25,440
that they put their hands on me these

1877
01:14:30,590 --> 01:14:28,920
things put their hands on me that it

1878
01:14:32,330 --> 01:14:30,600
wasn't just a sighting I just didn't

1879
01:14:33,709 --> 01:14:32,340
just see a flying saucer there was

1880
01:14:35,030 --> 01:14:33,719
something more intimate to this

1881
01:14:37,610 --> 01:14:35,040
encounter

1882
01:14:39,050 --> 01:14:37,620
and um

1883
01:14:48,950 --> 01:14:39,060
I

1884
01:14:51,290 --> 01:14:48,960
to tell people what happened to me

1885
01:14:53,630 --> 01:14:51,300
and I I couldn't do that if I were

1886
01:14:56,270 --> 01:14:53,640
working for the government I mean am I

1887
01:14:58,189 --> 01:14:56,280
peers in the legal Community uh

1888
01:15:00,050 --> 01:14:58,199
you know it was interesting a couple of

1889
01:15:01,550 --> 01:15:00,060
them were supportive of me

1890
01:15:03,229 --> 01:15:01,560
you know I believe you you know you're

1891
01:15:05,810 --> 01:15:03,239
not the kind of guy to tell

1892
01:15:09,169 --> 01:15:05,820
a tale

1893
01:15:10,850 --> 01:15:09,179
but I had a lot of my friends emailed me

1894
01:15:12,350 --> 01:15:10,860
like what is wrong with you you lost

1895
01:15:14,390 --> 01:15:12,360
your mind

1896
01:15:16,430 --> 01:15:14,400
if this really happened to you why would

1897
01:15:18,350 --> 01:15:16,440
you come out and say such a thing you

1898
01:15:21,470 --> 01:15:18,360
know people think you're crazy blah blah

1899
01:15:26,050 --> 01:15:21,480
blah well you know so be it you know

1900
01:15:32,330 --> 01:15:30,470
as powerful man I I listened to

1901
01:15:34,430 --> 01:15:32,340
um to that entire interview and I've

1902
01:15:36,590 --> 01:15:34,440
been wanting to interview Terry for a

1903
01:15:38,810 --> 01:15:36,600
while now he was so gracious and sent me

1904
01:15:41,149 --> 01:15:38,820
his book a really long time ago and I

1905
01:15:44,270 --> 01:15:41,159
just haven't been able to to work it out

1906
01:15:46,910 --> 01:15:44,280
so I was so happy to see that Andy

1907
01:15:49,250 --> 01:15:46,920
finally got him on and it was very clear

1908
01:15:53,990 --> 01:15:49,260
that a lot of prep went into that and

1909
01:15:57,229 --> 01:15:54,000
also that um Terry just is such a an

1910
01:16:00,649 --> 01:15:57,239
open guy and he's so

1911
01:16:02,390 --> 01:16:00,659
um affected by all of this you know

1912
01:16:04,189 --> 01:16:02,400
people ask me all the time like where

1913
01:16:06,410 --> 01:16:04,199
where are the abduction stories anymore

1914
01:16:08,030 --> 01:16:06,420
it seems like they're gone but now it

1915
01:16:09,410 --> 01:16:08,040
seems that we're kind of uh we're

1916
01:16:11,450 --> 01:16:09,420
getting a lot of them now again we're

1917
01:16:14,090 --> 01:16:11,460
getting Chris Bledsoe just came out with

1918
01:16:16,790 --> 01:16:14,100
his book uh Terry's incident is

1919
01:16:19,850 --> 01:16:16,800
extremely compelling

1920
01:16:21,830 --> 01:16:19,860
um I I Breeze through that book uh to be

1921
01:16:23,510 --> 01:16:21,840
honest so um yeah what did you think

1922
01:16:27,110 --> 01:16:23,520
what do you think of Terry lovelace's

1923
01:16:28,970 --> 01:16:27,120
story and um and how this interview went

1924
01:16:31,070 --> 01:16:28,980
so I mean firstly I just want to point

1925
01:16:32,209 --> 01:16:31,080
out that this was this was all Andy like

1926
01:16:33,890 --> 01:16:32,219
he prepped and did this interview

1927
01:16:36,290 --> 01:16:33,900
completely on his own and he knocked it

1928
01:16:38,390 --> 01:16:36,300
out the park like just phenomenal

1929
01:16:40,010 --> 01:16:38,400
um and then my kind of part came in when

1930
01:16:42,229 --> 01:16:40,020
I was editing it and and I got to choose

1931
01:16:44,570 --> 01:16:42,239
the clip that we put up and the reason I

1932
01:16:46,250 --> 01:16:44,580
chose that clip is because it kind of

1933
01:16:48,830 --> 01:16:46,260
represents where we are in ufology right

1934
01:16:50,930 --> 01:16:48,840
now we're trying to find tangible things

1935
01:16:53,090 --> 01:16:50,940
that we can work with and what Terry

1936
01:16:55,370 --> 01:16:53,100
presents there is a very tangible thing

1937
01:16:57,590 --> 01:16:55,380
there was an object in his leg that an

1938
01:16:59,270 --> 01:16:57,600
expert told him was anomalous and he'd

1939
01:17:01,010 --> 01:16:59,280
never seen before that's something worth

1940
01:17:02,510 --> 01:17:01,020
listening to we're not seeing what the

1941
01:17:04,370 --> 01:17:02,520
object is we're not saying where it came

1942
01:17:05,630 --> 01:17:04,380
from we're just saying that's a bit

1943
01:17:07,729 --> 01:17:05,640
different and that's something we need

1944
01:17:09,290 --> 01:17:07,739
to figure out like I said we need to

1945
01:17:11,570 --> 01:17:09,300
listen to these experts they're the ones

1946
01:17:13,910 --> 01:17:11,580
with the experience here right

1947
01:17:17,570 --> 01:17:13,920
um what is that objective there was no

1948
01:17:19,790 --> 01:17:17,580
scar there and it it made me think

1949
01:17:21,110 --> 01:17:19,800
actually you know what how how could we

1950
01:17:23,510 --> 01:17:21,120
get something into someone's body

1951
01:17:25,430 --> 01:17:23,520
without leaving a scar if only there

1952
01:17:26,750 --> 01:17:25,440
existed particles that didn't interact

1953
01:17:28,729 --> 01:17:26,760
with things and we've already spoken

1954
01:17:30,950 --> 01:17:28,739
about some of those in this podcast

1955
01:17:32,990 --> 01:17:30,960
talking about nuance and how they move

1956
01:17:35,270 --> 01:17:33,000
through objects right

1957
01:17:37,370 --> 01:17:35,280
um and a particle is only a vibration in

1958
01:17:39,050 --> 01:17:37,380
a wave so essentially if you can affect

1959
01:17:40,910 --> 01:17:39,060
that vibration in the wave you can put

1960
01:17:42,770 --> 01:17:40,920
something in someone's body without uh

1961
01:17:44,689 --> 01:17:42,780
without having a scar without you know

1962
01:17:48,470 --> 01:17:44,699
having to cut them open

1963
01:17:50,570 --> 01:17:48,480
um and and it speaks of this kind of

1964
01:17:51,770 --> 01:17:50,580
this pursuit of precision it doesn't

1965
01:17:54,470 --> 01:17:51,780
matter if we're looking at ancient

1966
01:17:56,330 --> 01:17:54,480
civilizations or UAP both

1967
01:17:58,550 --> 01:17:56,340
areas

1968
01:18:01,130 --> 01:17:58,560
it's kind of speak of this pursuit of

1969
01:18:03,290 --> 01:18:01,140
precision this is what we're where being

1970
01:18:04,430 --> 01:18:03,300
humanity is involved in you know we've

1971
01:18:07,250 --> 01:18:04,440
gone from

1972
01:18:09,470 --> 01:18:07,260
having these clumsy big tools to being

1973
01:18:13,250 --> 01:18:09,480
able to to start engineering things at

1974
01:18:15,290 --> 01:18:13,260
such small scales that uh they

1975
01:18:17,270 --> 01:18:15,300
experience Quantum effects so for

1976
01:18:20,030 --> 01:18:17,280
example you know there's a logic gate in

1977
01:18:21,709 --> 01:18:20,040
computers and those kind of logic gates

1978
01:18:24,169 --> 01:18:21,719
usually transistors there aren't or are

1979
01:18:26,630 --> 01:18:24,179
for a one or a zero once you make those

1980
01:18:28,310 --> 01:18:26,640
small enough you can no longer kind of

1981
01:18:31,130 --> 01:18:28,320
read the logic out of the gate because

1982
01:18:32,450 --> 01:18:31,140
the the particle kind of Skips out and

1983
01:18:34,370 --> 01:18:32,460
it both goes through and doesn't go

1984
01:18:35,689 --> 01:18:34,380
through so you kind of need to engineer

1985
01:18:37,669 --> 01:18:35,699
for that

1986
01:18:39,110 --> 01:18:37,679
um so it makes you wonder you know if if

1987
01:18:41,209 --> 01:18:39,120
we couldn't necessarily make something

1988
01:18:43,610 --> 01:18:41,219
like the pyramid today

1989
01:18:45,770 --> 01:18:43,620
um how did they make that back then

1990
01:18:47,270 --> 01:18:45,780
um and to bring it back to Terry and I

1991
01:18:50,149 --> 01:18:47,280
think this is kind of one of the reasons

1992
01:18:51,770 --> 01:18:50,159
why UFOs and ET life is kind of

1993
01:18:53,030 --> 01:18:51,780
conflated with stuff like the pyramids

1994
01:18:55,910 --> 01:18:53,040
because

1995
01:18:59,510 --> 01:18:55,920
the technology present in these devices

1996
01:19:00,649 --> 01:18:59,520
like like say whether it's a UFO or uh

1997
01:19:02,209 --> 01:19:00,659
you know a stone that's kind of

1998
01:19:03,770 --> 01:19:02,219
engineered to a way that we couldn't

1999
01:19:05,030 --> 01:19:03,780
engineer it today

2000
01:19:08,090 --> 01:19:05,040
um it's all about that pursuit of

2001
01:19:10,610 --> 01:19:08,100
precision we we only crack the atom you

2002
01:19:13,850 --> 01:19:10,620
know during the Manhattan Project and

2003
01:19:15,590 --> 01:19:13,860
now here we are talking about waves in

2004
01:19:17,270 --> 01:19:15,600
the universe and and them being there

2005
01:19:20,990 --> 01:19:17,280
and not being there you know we're

2006
01:19:23,390 --> 01:19:21,000
already past uh what we call space time

2007
01:19:25,550 --> 01:19:23,400
uh thinking of the universe is made of

2008
01:19:28,910 --> 01:19:25,560
particles that's gone the the universe

2009
01:19:30,649 --> 01:19:28,920
is for all probability it's all about uh

2010
01:19:32,990 --> 01:19:30,659
the chances that something are going to

2011
01:19:34,669 --> 01:19:33,000
exist and we've got to start wondering

2012
01:19:36,350 --> 01:19:34,679
you know

2013
01:19:39,470 --> 01:19:36,360
what does it look like when we can

2014
01:19:42,290 --> 01:19:39,480
affect that probability at a fundamental

2015
01:19:44,270 --> 01:19:42,300
level is it just a case of like nudging

2016
01:19:45,229 --> 01:19:44,280
the probability to say

2017
01:19:47,209 --> 01:19:45,239
um

2018
01:19:49,669 --> 01:19:47,219
there is an implant here

2019
01:19:52,250 --> 01:19:49,679
or is it kind of more heavy-handed than

2020
01:19:55,310 --> 01:19:52,260
that the point is that that all of these

2021
01:19:57,890 --> 01:19:55,320
Technologies are real subtle and they're

2022
01:19:59,510 --> 01:19:57,900
Way Beyond what we can achieve today so

2023
01:20:00,770 --> 01:19:59,520
whether you believe that it's ET or

2024
01:20:04,310 --> 01:20:00,780
whether you believe that it's something

2025
01:20:06,410 --> 01:20:04,320
else fact is this technology is unknown

2026
01:20:08,149 --> 01:20:06,420
to us this is something other and

2027
01:20:10,130 --> 01:20:08,159
something that probably will start

2028
01:20:12,169 --> 01:20:10,140
inspiring people to think about how how

2029
01:20:14,930 --> 01:20:12,179
do I put an implant in someone without

2030
01:20:17,149 --> 01:20:14,940
cutting them open and a technology like

2031
01:20:19,910 --> 01:20:17,159
that could change the world

2032
01:20:22,729 --> 01:20:19,920
absolutely yeah could you imagine like

2033
01:20:26,810 --> 01:20:22,739
if if that's the way that um surgery

2034
01:20:29,209 --> 01:20:26,820
moved forward like no evasiveness no

2035
01:20:32,450 --> 01:20:29,219
um it would just be incredible

2036
01:20:35,510 --> 01:20:32,460
incredible so like uh it makes you think

2037
01:20:37,550 --> 01:20:35,520
of uh diabetes right uh people with

2038
01:20:38,510 --> 01:20:37,560
diabetics they've got to take a break of

2039
01:20:40,310 --> 01:20:38,520
blood

2040
01:20:42,530 --> 01:20:40,320
um to kind of see their sugar levels and

2041
01:20:43,850 --> 01:20:42,540
to combat that so so that they can you

2042
01:20:45,649 --> 01:20:43,860
know make sure that they don't die from

2043
01:20:48,050 --> 01:20:45,659
this disease

2044
01:20:50,570 --> 01:20:48,060
um if we could come up with a way of

2045
01:20:52,070 --> 01:20:50,580
reading that sugar level without

2046
01:20:55,430 --> 01:20:52,080
reading the blood

2047
01:20:57,350 --> 01:20:55,440
that feels like a small change but it in

2048
01:20:59,510 --> 01:20:57,360
fact has a lot of implications again

2049
01:21:02,209 --> 01:20:59,520
it's about building sensors that give us

2050
01:21:04,070 --> 01:21:02,219
the eyes to see as opposed to this thing

2051
01:21:05,149 --> 01:21:04,080
not being possible or not being there in

2052
01:21:06,530 --> 01:21:05,159
the first place I always like to

2053
01:21:08,090 --> 01:21:06,540
highlight the James Webb Telescope and

2054
01:21:10,189 --> 01:21:08,100
it looking at Urena so people are like

2055
01:21:12,290 --> 01:21:10,199
whoa Uranus has rings yeah it always did

2056
01:21:14,209 --> 01:21:12,300
they didn't appear because we made the

2057
01:21:15,830 --> 01:21:14,219
James Webb Telescope they've always been

2058
01:21:19,189 --> 01:21:15,840
there we just now finally have given

2059
01:21:21,410 --> 01:21:19,199
ourselves eyes to see exactly you know

2060
01:21:23,810 --> 01:21:21,420
and discovering possible new galaxies

2061
01:21:25,790 --> 01:21:23,820
that have been out there far longer than

2062
01:21:29,630 --> 01:21:25,800
we thought they were which then changes

2063
01:21:31,850 --> 01:21:29,640
our entire cosmology it's just ah God

2064
01:21:34,130 --> 01:21:31,860
and that just to highlight you know the

2065
01:21:36,110 --> 01:21:34,140
the idea that galaxies work or a certain

2066
01:21:39,470 --> 01:21:36,120
size at a certain point in our universe

2067
01:21:41,870 --> 01:21:39,480
that has so so many implications so we

2068
01:21:43,490 --> 01:21:41,880
all know about the great equation right

2069
01:21:46,070 --> 01:21:43,500
um and I won't go into it now but

2070
01:21:47,870 --> 01:21:46,080
basically it's a very conservative

2071
01:21:49,790 --> 01:21:47,880
equation that kind of says okay if there

2072
01:21:51,590 --> 01:21:49,800
are x amount of stars in the galaxy and

2073
01:21:53,810 --> 01:21:51,600
x amount of Galaxy or in the universe

2074
01:21:55,370 --> 01:21:53,820
and x amount galaxies and only one

2075
01:21:57,169 --> 01:21:55,380
percent of those is habitable and only

2076
01:21:59,570 --> 01:21:57,179
one percent of Life on those habitable

2077
01:22:01,729 --> 01:21:59,580
planets becomes technologically kind of

2078
01:22:03,709 --> 01:22:01,739
adept and able to do things so on so

2079
01:22:06,410 --> 01:22:03,719
forth one of the fundamental parts of

2080
01:22:08,450 --> 01:22:06,420
that is how early galaxies formed so

2081
01:22:10,850 --> 01:22:08,460
that equation that we took for granted

2082
01:22:12,709 --> 01:22:10,860
and that Skeptics took for granted is

2083
01:22:14,510 --> 01:22:12,719
completely offended by something that

2084
01:22:16,010 --> 01:22:14,520
James Webb Telescope just casually kind

2085
01:22:17,470 --> 01:22:16,020
of went oh yeah actually you guys were

2086
01:22:21,169 --> 01:22:17,480
wrong about this

2087
01:22:25,189 --> 01:22:21,179
I love that yeah James Webb is like

2088
01:22:26,750 --> 01:22:25,199
literally the ultimate actually I love

2089
01:22:28,430 --> 01:22:26,760
it

2090
01:22:29,990 --> 01:22:28,440
awesome man

2091
01:22:31,669 --> 01:22:30,000
um awesome awesome interview I highly

2092
01:22:35,209 --> 01:22:31,679
suggest people check it out over at that

2093
01:22:37,250 --> 01:22:35,219
UFO podcast and read Terry's book too um

2094
01:22:38,810 --> 01:22:37,260
you will not be disappointed and it

2095
01:22:41,750 --> 01:22:38,820
might even open your mind to the alien

2096
01:22:44,590 --> 01:22:41,760
abduction phenomenon even further so um

2097
01:22:47,510 --> 01:22:44,600
let's move on yeah

2098
01:22:49,490 --> 01:22:47,520
so one comes along was very interested

2099
01:22:51,290 --> 01:22:49,500
in Terry lovelos his story uh so there's

2100
01:22:53,030 --> 01:22:51,300
some involvement there um you know there

2101
01:22:54,649 --> 01:22:53,040
was some interaction at one point I'm

2102
01:22:57,229 --> 01:22:54,659
pretty sure Terry Lovelace was gonna

2103
01:23:01,370 --> 01:22:57,239
kind of feed into the research on on

2104
01:23:02,930 --> 01:23:01,380
physical kind of uh effects from UAP

2105
01:23:04,010 --> 01:23:02,940
um I'm not sure what's going on with

2106
01:23:05,270 --> 01:23:04,020
that now but that's something I'd love

2107
01:23:06,590 --> 01:23:05,280
to talk to Tom about and be like hey

2108
01:23:08,330 --> 01:23:06,600
what is it about this that interested

2109
01:23:10,910 --> 01:23:08,340
you like is this in the IC has this

2110
01:23:12,649 --> 01:23:10,920
taken you know really seriously and held

2111
01:23:14,090 --> 01:23:12,659
up as an example of yeah someone's

2112
01:23:17,090 --> 01:23:14,100
taking people and doing stuff to them

2113
01:23:18,649 --> 01:23:17,100
the the other part of it

2114
01:23:21,530 --> 01:23:18,659
um which has fallen out my brain now

2115
01:23:24,410 --> 01:23:21,540
because this is what it does

2116
01:23:26,149 --> 01:23:24,420
no worries man well no you bring up Tom

2117
01:23:28,189 --> 01:23:26,159
Delong that that's interesting because

2118
01:23:31,310 --> 01:23:28,199
he just put out a tweet like three days

2119
01:23:35,090 --> 01:23:31,320
ago saying if anyone has any alleged

2120
01:23:36,709 --> 01:23:35,100
materials from Craft or possibly like an

2121
01:23:38,930 --> 01:23:36,719
abduction experience or whatever like

2122
01:23:41,270 --> 01:23:38,940
reach out to me to the stars is still

2123
01:23:43,370 --> 01:23:41,280
very interested so hey maybe there's

2124
01:23:46,189 --> 01:23:43,380
still hope that um Terry could get that

2125
01:23:48,290 --> 01:23:46,199
examined or or something I don't know

2126
01:23:50,090 --> 01:23:48,300
like like it's clear that Tom going back

2127
01:23:52,010 --> 01:23:50,100
to Blink has given him a lot more kind

2128
01:23:53,510 --> 01:23:52,020
of you know resources to do things with

2129
01:23:55,310 --> 01:23:53,520
he's probably getting a lot of money

2130
01:23:57,709 --> 01:23:55,320
from the tours and things like that it's

2131
01:23:59,810 --> 01:23:57,719
really cool that he's taking that money

2132
01:24:02,270 --> 01:23:59,820
and going how can I help the UFO subject

2133
01:24:04,669 --> 01:24:02,280
with this you know it's not about you

2134
01:24:06,530 --> 01:24:04,679
know getting a yacht for Tom Delan Tom

2135
01:24:09,410 --> 01:24:06,540
sincerely wants to help this subject

2136
01:24:11,930 --> 01:24:09,420
move forward so you know I I'm really

2137
01:24:14,390 --> 01:24:11,940
curious if anyone got in touch with him

2138
01:24:18,530 --> 01:24:14,400
yeah absolutely by those Blink 182

2139
01:24:21,350 --> 01:24:18,540
albums guys do it let's move on Dan to

2140
01:24:24,709 --> 01:24:21,360
our next podcast and that is weaponized

2141
01:24:26,689 --> 01:24:24,719
with George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell

2142
01:24:29,510 --> 01:24:26,699
um they didn't have a guest this past

2143
01:24:32,090 --> 01:24:29,520
week uh but they did have uh they talked

2144
01:24:34,130 --> 01:24:32,100
a lot about someone who George Knapp had

2145
01:24:37,810 --> 01:24:34,140
been in touch with and that was a senior

2146
01:24:40,910 --> 01:24:37,820
EG and G manager who claims the military

2147
01:24:43,430 --> 01:24:40,920
has a live alien so let's go ahead and

2148
01:24:46,010 --> 01:24:43,440
check out this clip and we'll uh we'll

2149
01:24:48,530 --> 01:24:46,020
talk about it when we get back here when

2150
01:24:51,770 --> 01:24:48,540
when O'Donnell says to you Al O'Donnell

2151
01:24:53,209 --> 01:24:51,780
when he says to you we had a live alien

2152
01:24:55,729 --> 01:24:53,219
a being

2153
01:24:57,410 --> 01:24:55,739
obviously From Another World what was

2154
01:25:00,050 --> 01:24:57,420
your feeling

2155
01:25:01,970 --> 01:25:00,060
well I was overwhelmed because it was in

2156
01:25:03,890 --> 01:25:01,980
effect confirmation of things that I had

2157
01:25:06,470 --> 01:25:03,900
come to believe because of the reporting

2158
01:25:08,630 --> 01:25:06,480
we'd already done uh and then the

2159
01:25:10,430 --> 01:25:08,640
evidence of cover-ups and lies that have

2160
01:25:12,290 --> 01:25:10,440
been told to the public here's this guy

2161
01:25:14,149 --> 01:25:12,300
in a high position with the high

2162
01:25:15,590 --> 01:25:14,159
security clearance telling me that it

2163
01:25:17,450 --> 01:25:15,600
was true that they really did have a

2164
01:25:20,090 --> 01:25:17,460
craft and they had a being my second

2165
01:25:23,149 --> 01:25:20,100
feeling was one of overwhelming sadness

2166
01:25:25,250 --> 01:25:23,159
for the uh the being whatever it was you

2167
01:25:26,870 --> 01:25:25,260
know that was kept out there I asked him

2168
01:25:28,310 --> 01:25:26,880
you know what had happened to him what

2169
01:25:29,450 --> 01:25:28,320
became of it he says I don't know I

2170
01:25:31,970 --> 01:25:29,460
don't know what ever happened to it but

2171
01:25:33,290 --> 01:25:31,980
he was out there for a while alive and

2172
01:25:34,850 --> 01:25:33,300
eventually they figured out a way to

2173
01:25:36,649 --> 01:25:34,860
communicate with it and so I asked him

2174
01:25:38,570 --> 01:25:36,659
well what did it look like and he made

2175
01:25:39,890 --> 01:25:38,580
me guess as he did with all these

2176
01:25:41,870 --> 01:25:39,900
questions they made me guess he said

2177
01:25:44,570 --> 01:25:41,880
well kind of looks like a certain

2178
01:25:46,490 --> 01:25:44,580
political candidate I said well who what

2179
01:25:48,290 --> 01:25:46,500
a politically the other two and at the

2180
01:25:49,910 --> 01:25:48,300
time Ross Perot was running for

2181
01:25:52,430 --> 01:25:49,920
president he said it looks like Ross

2182
01:25:54,890 --> 01:25:52,440
Perot a little skinny guy with uh big

2183
01:25:57,950 --> 01:25:54,900
ears and a tiny head not a classic gray

2184
01:25:59,510 --> 01:25:57,960
looking alien but a very odd looking uh

2185
01:26:01,970 --> 01:25:59,520
creature with really big ears that

2186
01:26:03,470 --> 01:26:01,980
looked like Ross Perot and I laughed and

2187
01:26:04,550 --> 01:26:03,480
so we had these conversations for a

2188
01:26:06,350 --> 01:26:04,560
while

2189
01:26:08,750 --> 01:26:06,360
and I was blown away by the information

2190
01:26:10,430 --> 01:26:08,760
they shared I took all these notes I did

2191
01:26:12,530 --> 01:26:10,440
I was hoping that someday I might be

2192
01:26:14,090 --> 01:26:12,540
able to get the information out and I

2193
01:26:16,550 --> 01:26:14,100
asked him look you're getting up there

2194
01:26:18,649 --> 01:26:16,560
in age can you if I can't record

2195
01:26:21,110 --> 01:26:18,659
something with you could you record a

2196
01:26:23,870 --> 01:26:21,120
statement the effect of tell me this

2197
01:26:25,669 --> 01:26:23,880
story on camera and then when when you

2198
01:26:29,229 --> 01:26:25,679
pass on I could have the tape and he

2199
01:26:35,810 --> 01:26:34,070
hmm so last week we highlighted Russell

2200
01:26:38,270 --> 01:26:35,820
Brand's interview with Jeremy corbeau

2201
01:26:40,610 --> 01:26:38,280
where a lot of these big claims were

2202
01:26:41,930 --> 01:26:40,620
made by Corbell about we've got live

2203
01:26:44,350 --> 01:26:41,940
aliens

2204
01:26:48,290 --> 01:26:44,360
um the reverse engineering technology

2205
01:26:50,090 --> 01:26:48,300
blah blah and now the here we go this

2206
01:26:52,550 --> 01:26:50,100
week on weaponize we hear this story

2207
01:26:54,590 --> 01:26:52,560
that was um that was brought to us by

2208
01:26:57,290 --> 01:26:54,600
George knepp and um we should point out

2209
01:26:59,689 --> 01:26:57,300
it was a former EG and G senior manager

2210
01:27:03,229 --> 01:26:59,699
by the name of Alfred O'Donnell that

2211
01:27:05,629 --> 01:27:03,239
George Knapp had spoken to and uh and it

2212
01:27:06,709 --> 01:27:05,639
turns out that we apparently have a live

2213
01:27:11,090 --> 01:27:06,719
alien

2214
01:27:13,070 --> 01:27:11,100
um and uh George never got you know that

2215
01:27:15,050 --> 01:27:13,080
video never got the video

2216
01:27:17,450 --> 01:27:15,060
um the guy kind of said he was silenced

2217
01:27:18,950 --> 01:27:17,460
and and they went on to kind of talk

2218
01:27:20,629 --> 01:27:18,960
about how this has happened throughout

2219
01:27:23,090 --> 01:27:20,639
the history of this topic people are

2220
01:27:24,649 --> 01:27:23,100
silenced from within to not talk about

2221
01:27:26,090 --> 01:27:24,659
this stuff that they've seen or

2222
01:27:28,189 --> 01:27:26,100
experienced

2223
01:27:30,070 --> 01:27:28,199
um so yeah Dan uh did you catch this in

2224
01:27:32,689 --> 01:27:30,080
entire interview

2225
01:27:34,790 --> 01:27:32,699
was this even you know the core of the

2226
01:27:36,470 --> 01:27:34,800
conversation going on this live alien

2227
01:27:39,709 --> 01:27:36,480
thing or what did you take from

2228
01:27:41,270 --> 01:27:39,719
weaponize this past week yeah so the the

2229
01:27:43,370 --> 01:27:41,280
alien thing was kind of a part of a

2230
01:27:45,110 --> 01:27:43,380
bigger conversation about EG and G and a

2231
01:27:46,729 --> 01:27:45,120
whole bunch of interviews that George

2232
01:27:47,810 --> 01:27:46,739
has done over the years George Knapp

2233
01:27:49,490 --> 01:27:47,820
that is

2234
01:27:51,470 --> 01:27:49,500
um with people that keep bringing up

2235
01:27:53,149 --> 01:27:51,480
this company EG and G it's everywhere

2236
01:27:55,430 --> 01:27:53,159
and you know when I was researching for

2237
01:27:57,290 --> 01:27:55,440
this podcast uh something I've never

2238
01:27:58,610 --> 01:27:57,300
noticed about EJ before kind of slapped

2239
01:28:01,209 --> 01:27:58,620
me across the face do you know when it

2240
01:28:09,830 --> 01:28:05,990
uh no right after the Roswell crash

2241
01:28:11,930 --> 01:28:09,840
okay which you know kind of a lot of

2242
01:28:13,550 --> 01:28:11,940
implications there like yeah that kind

2243
01:28:15,169 --> 01:28:13,560
of whole military industrial complex

2244
01:28:16,610 --> 01:28:15,179
kind of came from that time as well you

2245
01:28:19,189 --> 01:28:16,620
know with the atomic energy commission

2246
01:28:20,750 --> 01:28:19,199
and things like that so it's US Air

2247
01:28:23,149 --> 01:28:20,760
Force too

2248
01:28:25,310 --> 01:28:23,159
yeah and just to say on the UFO's thing

2249
01:28:28,669 --> 01:28:25,320
as well it frustrates me that they were

2250
01:28:30,890 --> 01:28:28,679
ever involved because the way that

2251
01:28:33,169 --> 01:28:30,900
a spacecraft in a warp bubble wood move

2252
01:28:35,870 --> 01:28:33,179
it wouldn't be moving like something in

2253
01:28:37,550 --> 01:28:35,880
atmosphere the Air Force is all about

2254
01:28:39,410 --> 01:28:37,560
wings right like even if it's a

2255
01:28:41,570 --> 01:28:39,420
helicopter it's a single wing kind of

2256
01:28:43,490 --> 01:28:41,580
spinning around keeping it Aloft whereas

2257
01:28:45,649 --> 01:28:43,500
the Navy is about moving in water and

2258
01:28:47,510 --> 01:28:45,659
how ships accelerate and decelerate in

2259
01:28:49,250 --> 01:28:47,520
space and in vacuum that's a lot more

2260
01:28:50,990 --> 01:28:49,260
akin to how a boat moves through water

2261
01:28:53,330 --> 01:28:51,000
or submarine moves through water than

2262
01:28:54,590 --> 01:28:53,340
something traveling in the air so I love

2263
01:28:55,850 --> 01:28:54,600
that the Navy are getting involved in

2264
01:28:57,290 --> 01:28:55,860
this now because they're they're the

2265
01:28:58,729 --> 01:28:57,300
ones that should have been involved in

2266
01:29:03,110 --> 01:28:58,739
it from the first place

2267
01:29:05,209 --> 01:29:03,120
yeah um yeah the the EJ stuff was just

2268
01:29:06,890 --> 01:29:05,219
kind of mind-blowing the EJ they they

2269
01:29:08,750 --> 01:29:06,900
build a variety of like sensing

2270
01:29:10,669 --> 01:29:08,760
detection and imaging products including

2271
01:29:13,070 --> 01:29:10,679
night vision they were really involved

2272
01:29:14,810 --> 01:29:13,080
in providing the Imaging for the atomic

2273
01:29:16,250 --> 01:29:14,820
weapons tests you know Trinity and

2274
01:29:19,430 --> 01:29:16,260
things like that so they were really

2275
01:29:22,669 --> 01:29:19,440
good enough to to build that technology

2276
01:29:24,410 --> 01:29:22,679
that was affected by the nuclear fallout

2277
01:29:26,750 --> 01:29:24,420
or the radiation coming off of those

2278
01:29:28,129 --> 01:29:26,760
tests in a minimal kind of way of course

2279
01:29:29,689 --> 01:29:28,139
now we know that most people that were

2280
01:29:32,149 --> 01:29:29,699
stood there watching it died of cancer

2281
01:29:34,370 --> 01:29:32,159
from the radiation but again that speaks

2282
01:29:36,050 --> 01:29:34,380
to there being something invisible we

2283
01:29:38,030 --> 01:29:36,060
didn't know about them but we've since

2284
01:29:39,649 --> 01:29:38,040
now we know like radiation's bad you're

2285
01:29:41,090 --> 01:29:39,659
like by Chernobyl we knew that we

2286
01:29:42,830 --> 01:29:41,100
shouldn't be sending people in yeah they

2287
01:29:46,250 --> 01:29:42,840
did anyway right

2288
01:29:48,530 --> 01:29:46,260
um so the other thing about ugng is they

2289
01:29:51,169 --> 01:29:48,540
they were the guys who provided the

2290
01:29:52,370 --> 01:29:51,179
flights to kind of sensitive places so

2291
01:29:55,250 --> 01:29:52,380
when we're talking about people like Bob

2292
01:29:57,350 --> 01:29:55,260
Lazar Bob Lazar would have gone on the

2293
01:29:59,930 --> 01:29:57,360
Janet flights which were organized by EG

2294
01:30:02,229 --> 01:29:59,940
and G so they really intricately

2295
01:30:06,050 --> 01:30:02,239
involved in that kind of American

2296
01:30:08,209 --> 01:30:06,060
weapons kind of industry and and you

2297
01:30:09,950 --> 01:30:08,219
can't really separate them from it

2298
01:30:12,050 --> 01:30:09,960
um they later became a company called

2299
01:30:13,850 --> 01:30:12,060
URS Federal Services I think that was

2300
01:30:15,530 --> 01:30:13,860
like 2009

2301
01:30:17,030 --> 01:30:15,540
um so you probably won't see that name

2302
01:30:19,850 --> 01:30:17,040
out there kind of in the modern day

2303
01:30:23,149 --> 01:30:19,860
you're looking for URS Federal services

2304
01:30:25,610 --> 01:30:23,159
so this this situation with the alien it

2305
01:30:27,770 --> 01:30:25,620
makes you wonder about we heard that the

2306
01:30:30,950 --> 01:30:27,780
Roswell crash might have been you know a

2307
01:30:32,870 --> 01:30:30,960
balloon thing uh that had

2308
01:30:35,689 --> 01:30:32,880
humans that were surgically altered to

2309
01:30:38,629 --> 01:30:35,699
look a certain way right so we we could

2310
01:30:40,310 --> 01:30:38,639
be looking at Intel games uh you know

2311
01:30:42,050 --> 01:30:40,320
kind of trying to

2312
01:30:43,370 --> 01:30:42,060
signify to Russia that we have something

2313
01:30:45,649 --> 01:30:43,380
that we don't or Russia trying to

2314
01:30:47,810 --> 01:30:45,659
signify to us and distract US during a

2315
01:30:50,450 --> 01:30:47,820
really important time

2316
01:30:51,890 --> 01:30:50,460
um but the bottom line here is that the

2317
01:30:55,790 --> 01:30:51,900
conspiracy

2318
01:30:58,370 --> 01:30:55,800
of UFOs involving EG and G is provable

2319
01:30:59,870 --> 01:30:58,380
through foia like even John Greenwald

2320
01:31:01,370 --> 01:30:59,880
wouldn't refute this he would agree he

2321
01:31:03,950 --> 01:31:01,380
would be like yeah that's provable what

2322
01:31:05,270 --> 01:31:03,960
they had we don't know but it's a

2323
01:31:07,129 --> 01:31:05,280
provable thing

2324
01:31:09,470 --> 01:31:07,139
George talking about communication as

2325
01:31:11,149 --> 01:31:09,480
well uh this is a really interesting one

2326
01:31:14,870 --> 01:31:11,159
for me and always is because what is

2327
01:31:16,250 --> 01:31:14,880
communication you know we we humans we

2328
01:31:19,070 --> 01:31:16,260
communicate in a real specific way

2329
01:31:20,810 --> 01:31:19,080
whether it's writing or language it's

2330
01:31:23,149 --> 01:31:20,820
all kind of based around the same system

2331
01:31:25,910 --> 01:31:23,159
when we limit ourselves but you look at

2332
01:31:27,229 --> 01:31:25,920
something like a rival where their

2333
01:31:28,970 --> 01:31:27,239
language and their writing was a

2334
01:31:30,830 --> 01:31:28,980
different thing uh you look at

2335
01:31:32,510 --> 01:31:30,840
hieroglyphics and that's a different way

2336
01:31:34,010 --> 01:31:32,520
of kind of communicating as well but

2337
01:31:37,370 --> 01:31:34,020
then you can kind of go to crazy things

2338
01:31:39,290 --> 01:31:37,380
like bees dancing for example or whales

2339
01:31:42,830 --> 01:31:39,300
singing or

2340
01:31:44,870 --> 01:31:42,840
they there was a type of wasp or a type

2341
01:31:47,330 --> 01:31:44,880
of fly that was targeted by a type of

2342
01:31:49,250 --> 01:31:47,340
wasp and the way that they communicated

2343
01:31:50,750 --> 01:31:49,260
was from the frequency of their wings

2344
01:31:52,370 --> 01:31:50,760
that's how they would identify each

2345
01:31:54,950 --> 01:31:52,380
other you know they never had eyes like

2346
01:31:57,050 --> 01:31:54,960
we have eyes so

2347
01:31:58,729 --> 01:31:57,060
the WASP or the Predator was able to

2348
01:32:00,229 --> 01:31:58,739
come in and just mimic that frequency

2349
01:32:02,209 --> 01:32:00,239
which they were beating their wings with

2350
01:32:03,890 --> 01:32:02,219
and the the fly would just invite them

2351
01:32:05,629 --> 01:32:03,900
into their home and they would you know

2352
01:32:08,990 --> 01:32:05,639
just sack the place basically and eat

2353
01:32:12,830 --> 01:32:09,000
everything uh so communication

2354
01:32:16,850 --> 01:32:12,840
is is such a loose term that we kind of

2355
01:32:19,729 --> 01:32:16,860
need to to think about more widely did

2356
01:32:20,870 --> 01:32:19,739
the Tic Tac communicate you know when it

2357
01:32:22,129 --> 01:32:20,880
was moving around and making the

2358
01:32:23,330 --> 01:32:22,139
patterns were those patterns

2359
01:32:24,229 --> 01:32:23,340
communication was it trying to say

2360
01:32:27,890 --> 01:32:24,239
something to us that we couldn't

2361
01:32:30,709 --> 01:32:27,900
understand a real kind of efficient way

2362
01:32:33,110 --> 01:32:30,719
to communicate would be through putting

2363
01:32:35,149 --> 01:32:33,120
images in people's minds right uh which

2364
01:32:37,070 --> 01:32:35,159
is just what we call telepathy and it

2365
01:32:39,410 --> 01:32:37,080
comes up in UFO encounters time and time

2366
01:32:41,030 --> 01:32:39,420
again we hear the degrees have no mouths

2367
01:32:43,189 --> 01:32:41,040
so if you have no mouths and you can't

2368
01:32:44,810 --> 01:32:43,199
affect sound in the way that we do to

2369
01:32:47,570 --> 01:32:44,820
kind of you know send messages to each

2370
01:32:49,550 --> 01:32:47,580
other uh how what what means do you have

2371
01:32:51,290 --> 01:32:49,560
to communicate it suggests either like

2372
01:32:52,850 --> 01:32:51,300
sign language or something like that or

2373
01:32:54,590 --> 01:32:52,860
the ability to just transmit your

2374
01:32:57,110 --> 01:32:54,600
thoughts through electromagnetism or

2375
01:32:59,330 --> 01:32:57,120
something like that uh this is a really

2376
01:33:00,110 --> 01:32:59,340
interesting part of the subject I know

2377
01:33:02,110 --> 01:33:00,120
we're going to be talking about

2378
01:33:06,229 --> 01:33:02,120
Spielberg just in a little bit as well

2379
01:33:08,629 --> 01:33:06,239
and it's really potent that in uh Close

2380
01:33:10,310 --> 01:33:08,639
Encounters the Third Kind what that

2381
01:33:13,850 --> 01:33:10,320
essentially comes down to at the end is

2382
01:33:15,290 --> 01:33:13,860
a bunch of artists using the rules of

2383
01:33:17,510 --> 01:33:15,300
the universe whether it's you know

2384
01:33:19,610 --> 01:33:17,520
constructing a drawing that you know

2385
01:33:21,050 --> 01:33:19,620
would be mathematically precise and

2386
01:33:23,270 --> 01:33:21,060
things like that or whether you have the

2387
01:33:24,649 --> 01:33:23,280
military guys using math to inform the

2388
01:33:27,110 --> 01:33:24,659
scales of music

2389
01:33:29,689 --> 01:33:27,120
they're both forms of communication and

2390
01:33:31,669 --> 01:33:29,699
the ship and the humans kind of start

2391
01:33:32,870 --> 01:33:31,679
off really you know it's an awkward

2392
01:33:34,729 --> 01:33:32,880
dance they're kind of stepping on each

2393
01:33:36,590 --> 01:33:34,739
other's toes at the start but after a

2394
01:33:38,689 --> 01:33:36,600
little while it becomes you know this

2395
01:33:40,850 --> 01:33:38,699
this perfect salsa of Waltz of

2396
01:33:42,770 --> 01:33:40,860
communication and they're talking about

2397
01:33:45,110 --> 01:33:42,780
light and sound and it just makes me

2398
01:33:46,610 --> 01:33:45,120
think of that equation that was given to

2399
01:33:49,129 --> 01:33:46,620
Bryce Sable you know it comes up and

2400
01:33:51,410 --> 01:33:49,139
then need to know podcast often way uh

2401
01:33:53,270 --> 01:33:51,420
he was told that the secrets of the

2402
01:33:55,250 --> 01:33:53,280
universe is in light sound and frequency

2403
01:33:57,169 --> 01:33:55,260
and that's a Tesla quote

2404
01:33:58,550 --> 01:33:57,179
um which obviously is loaded again it's

2405
01:34:01,189 --> 01:33:58,560
kind of a whole of the subject of

2406
01:34:03,229 --> 01:34:01,199
discussion but light and sound and

2407
01:34:05,209 --> 01:34:03,239
frequency that is the universe we live

2408
01:34:07,430 --> 01:34:05,219
in so what better ways to communicate

2409
01:34:09,490 --> 01:34:07,440
than than the very fundamentals of the

2410
01:34:12,290 --> 01:34:09,500
space that we enjoy

2411
01:34:16,430 --> 01:34:12,300
absolutely man yeah we're the biggest

2412
01:34:18,530 --> 01:34:16,440
performance piece of all time yeah I

2413
01:34:20,570 --> 01:34:18,540
love that Ryan Baker said I gotta bring

2414
01:34:22,610 --> 01:34:20,580
this up because I'm I empathize with

2415
01:34:25,729 --> 01:34:22,620
this if math is truly the universal

2416
01:34:28,729 --> 01:34:25,739
language I'm F they suck yeah I'm with

2417
01:34:30,350 --> 01:34:28,739
you Ryan I I don't think I either that's

2418
01:34:32,149 --> 01:34:30,360
that's what it is at the Gate of Heaven

2419
01:34:33,709 --> 01:34:32,159
they're like okay so out these

2420
01:34:39,310 --> 01:34:33,719
differential equations if you can't do

2421
01:34:43,189 --> 01:34:41,390
if that's what it's gonna take to

2422
01:34:46,250 --> 01:34:43,199
finally make communication

2423
01:34:48,290 --> 01:34:46,260
um and I can't do it uh what is this all

2424
01:34:49,689 --> 01:34:48,300
been 14

2425
01:34:53,209 --> 01:34:49,699
um

2426
01:34:55,729 --> 01:34:53,219
we'll move on as well

2427
01:34:58,490 --> 01:34:55,739
the zoo hypothesis and how Lou alizandro

2428
01:35:00,830 --> 01:34:58,500
speaks about him right he talks about us

2429
01:35:03,169 --> 01:35:00,840
kind of as way as if we're a gorillas in

2430
01:35:04,669 --> 01:35:03,179
a cage and we're fumbling with a key in

2431
01:35:06,590 --> 01:35:04,679
a lock that's what he says so what

2432
01:35:08,689 --> 01:35:06,600
happens when we get that door open

2433
01:35:10,370 --> 01:35:08,699
a number of different things there's

2434
01:35:11,990 --> 01:35:10,380
gonna be a zookeeper there who's been

2435
01:35:13,790 --> 01:35:12,000
noticed in the gorilla fumbling with the

2436
01:35:16,010 --> 01:35:13,800
lock for a while right in this case that

2437
01:35:19,250 --> 01:35:16,020
is the UAP or the occupants that

2438
01:35:22,550 --> 01:35:19,260
something other but when we get out

2439
01:35:23,629 --> 01:35:22,560
what happens that gate that zookeeper is

2440
01:35:25,550 --> 01:35:23,639
going to have a bunch of choices

2441
01:35:28,790 --> 01:35:25,560
available to them based on our behavior

2442
01:35:31,610 --> 01:35:28,800
in an instant we need to be able to

2443
01:35:33,530 --> 01:35:31,620
kind of project the win not the threat

2444
01:35:35,149 --> 01:35:33,540
right if a gorilla comes out of the cage

2445
01:35:36,350 --> 01:35:35,159
and it's just beating everyone up it's

2446
01:35:38,270 --> 01:35:36,360
probably gonna get shot not a

2447
01:35:39,470 --> 01:35:38,280
tranquilizer however if the gorilla

2448
01:35:42,290 --> 01:35:39,480
comes out of the cage and it's speaking

2449
01:35:44,810 --> 01:35:42,300
eloquently has a monocle and and is you

2450
01:35:46,310 --> 01:35:44,820
know putting out thoughts to your brain

2451
01:35:48,169 --> 01:35:46,320
that is all about like peace and love

2452
01:35:50,149 --> 01:35:48,179
and how it can help you that gets a

2453
01:35:52,790 --> 01:35:50,159
different reaction as well so if these

2454
01:35:54,709 --> 01:35:52,800
beings are telepathic then we we have a

2455
01:35:55,970 --> 01:35:54,719
little ways to go with our subtle senses

2456
01:35:57,770 --> 01:35:55,980
that are part of things like remote

2457
01:36:00,830 --> 01:35:57,780
viewing and things like that before we

2458
01:36:02,870 --> 01:36:00,840
can kind of project that you know peace

2459
01:36:04,850 --> 01:36:02,880
and love

2460
01:36:06,430 --> 01:36:04,860
I love that I can't get that image out

2461
01:36:09,050 --> 01:36:06,440
of my head

2462
01:36:12,410 --> 01:36:09,060
thanks man if there's anything I'm gonna

2463
01:36:15,169 --> 01:36:12,420
take from tonight it's that

2464
01:36:17,330 --> 01:36:15,179
very good points very good points um

2465
01:36:19,490 --> 01:36:17,340
okay let's move on to our last podcast

2466
01:36:22,669 --> 01:36:19,500
highlight of the week and that's Ryan

2467
01:36:24,350 --> 01:36:22,679
Graves merged podcast uh this was two

2468
01:36:25,550 --> 01:36:24,360
weeks ago I believe but I wanted to

2469
01:36:28,490 --> 01:36:25,560
highlight it

2470
01:36:30,649 --> 01:36:28,500
um this was guest Chris Van Voorhees

2471
01:36:33,290 --> 01:36:30,659
um he's a pilot who had a disc shaped

2472
01:36:35,629 --> 01:36:33,300
UFO encounter over the Pacific Ocean

2473
01:36:37,310 --> 01:36:35,639
this was really really interesting

2474
01:36:39,050 --> 01:36:37,320
Ryan's been having a lot of Pilots come

2475
01:36:40,910 --> 01:36:39,060
on to talk about their encounters but

2476
01:36:42,709 --> 01:36:40,920
this one stood out to me for various

2477
01:36:44,510 --> 01:36:42,719
reasons and I'll talk about that on the

2478
01:36:46,669 --> 01:36:44,520
other side so let's go ahead and take a

2479
01:36:47,990 --> 01:36:46,679
look at that clip here

2480
01:36:50,689 --> 01:36:48,000
um well let's start out with the

2481
01:36:52,970 --> 01:36:50,699
earliest one which was in 2005. okay and

2482
01:36:55,610 --> 01:36:52,980
that's when I was flying for gelways or

2483
01:36:59,209 --> 01:36:55,620
or Japan Airlines and that was coming

2484
01:37:01,370 --> 01:36:59,219
out of Fukuoka into Honolulu and we were

2485
01:37:03,649 --> 01:37:01,380
somewhere around just past the

2486
01:37:05,209 --> 01:37:03,659
International Date Line and it was

2487
01:37:07,669 --> 01:37:05,219
really early in the morning when there's

2488
01:37:09,830 --> 01:37:07,679
just a small little sliver of light blue

2489
01:37:11,570 --> 01:37:09,840
on the horizon

2490
01:37:13,610 --> 01:37:11,580
um flying with another captain and a

2491
01:37:16,850 --> 01:37:13,620
flight engineer on the 10. so there are

2492
01:37:19,250 --> 01:37:16,860
three cockpit crew members and uh all of

2493
01:37:21,590 --> 01:37:19,260
a sudden I saw some type of glint out of

2494
01:37:24,290 --> 01:37:21,600
the corner of my eye and looked up it

2495
01:37:26,030 --> 01:37:24,300
was probably at around 30 degrees in

2496
01:37:28,550 --> 01:37:26,040
inclination and maybe about the 10

2497
01:37:31,550 --> 01:37:28,560
o'clock position from our aircraft and

2498
01:37:34,010 --> 01:37:31,560
three large discs and you know I hate to

2499
01:37:36,169 --> 01:37:34,020
sound cliche for that but three large

2500
01:37:39,649 --> 01:37:36,179
discs in a triangular formation actually

2501
01:37:41,810 --> 01:37:39,659
came into the atmosphere glinting off

2502
01:37:44,030 --> 01:37:41,820
the Sun that was over the horizon all

2503
01:37:45,950 --> 01:37:44,040
right well so you were looking up at it

2504
01:37:48,350 --> 01:37:45,960
30 degrees and it was about 10 degrees

2505
01:37:50,030 --> 01:37:48,360
off your nose you said

2506
01:37:51,890 --> 01:37:50,040
um did we how far did you say you

2507
01:37:53,450 --> 01:37:51,900
thought it was were you able to estimate

2508
01:37:56,390 --> 01:37:53,460
that at all you know it was really

2509
01:37:57,950 --> 01:37:56,400
difficult it was far enough to have the

2510
01:38:01,550 --> 01:37:57,960
sun glinting off of it that was still

2511
01:38:03,830 --> 01:38:01,560
down over the horizon and it was uh

2512
01:38:05,689 --> 01:38:03,840
these things were huge I mean there was

2513
01:38:09,110 --> 01:38:05,699
no way to to

2514
01:38:11,689 --> 01:38:09,120
not say they were and for anyone not to

2515
01:38:13,729 --> 01:38:11,699
be able to see it it was amazing to me

2516
01:38:16,729 --> 01:38:13,739
because we had another aircraft in front

2517
01:38:18,830 --> 01:38:16,739
of us they saw it um we saw it and we

2518
01:38:20,570 --> 01:38:18,840
were talking with them and it was such a

2519
01:38:22,250 --> 01:38:20,580
short period we only saw it for maybe 15

2520
01:38:23,810 --> 01:38:22,260
seconds

2521
01:38:25,189 --> 01:38:23,820
um and we asked them are they going to

2522
01:38:27,169 --> 01:38:25,199
tell anybody and they're like no we're

2523
01:38:29,570 --> 01:38:27,179
not going to say anything are you no

2524
01:38:32,270 --> 01:38:29,580
we're not going to say anything either

2525
01:38:33,890 --> 01:38:32,280
um right who with the FAA controllers

2526
01:38:34,970 --> 01:38:33,900
are saying that or the other aircraft no

2527
01:38:36,590 --> 01:38:34,980
this was out over the middle of the

2528
01:38:39,350 --> 01:38:36,600
Pacific Ocean so there's another air

2529
01:38:42,290 --> 01:38:39,360
Japan flight and it was down in front of

2530
01:38:43,970 --> 01:38:42,300
us down below us and um they they had

2531
01:38:45,169 --> 01:38:43,980
seen it as well okay so they did

2532
01:38:46,250 --> 01:38:45,179
actually see it but they were saying

2533
01:38:48,169 --> 01:38:46,260
like Hey we're not going to really

2534
01:38:51,530 --> 01:38:48,179
report this not all three of us in the

2535
01:38:53,330 --> 01:38:51,540
cockpit saw it wow and uh I still am in

2536
01:38:54,830 --> 01:38:53,340
contact with those individuals today and

2537
01:38:57,350 --> 01:38:54,840
we still reminisce about it really

2538
01:38:59,149 --> 01:38:57,360
because it was something that still even

2539
01:39:00,890 --> 01:38:59,159
now it makes the hair stand up on the

2540
01:39:02,750 --> 01:39:00,900
back of my neck I felt privileged to

2541
01:39:04,850 --> 01:39:02,760
have seen it there were people that

2542
01:39:06,950 --> 01:39:04,860
asked me were you scared and I was like

2543
01:39:10,910 --> 01:39:06,960
no I felt privileged because it was

2544
01:39:14,149 --> 01:39:10,920
something that really changed my view on

2545
01:39:16,550 --> 01:39:14,159
on UFOs or uaps up to that point it had

2546
01:39:19,310 --> 01:39:16,560
always been something that had been you

2547
01:39:21,470 --> 01:39:19,320
know I I I'd seen some things that were

2548
01:39:22,629 --> 01:39:21,480
odd but I'd never seen anything like

2549
01:39:24,890 --> 01:39:22,639
that I

2550
01:39:27,890 --> 01:39:24,900
attributed my

2551
01:39:31,310 --> 01:39:27,900
at that point in time I should say

2552
01:39:34,310 --> 01:39:31,320
I I look at what I was compared to what

2553
01:39:36,050 --> 01:39:34,320
I am now and the way of mind or my mind

2554
01:39:36,950 --> 01:39:36,060
being open

2555
01:39:39,590 --> 01:39:36,960
um

2556
01:39:41,689 --> 01:39:39,600
it opened my mind really and it allowed

2557
01:39:43,970 --> 01:39:41,699
me to all of a sudden say hey these

2558
01:39:46,669 --> 01:39:43,980
things aren't in the world of fantasy

2559
01:39:48,410 --> 01:39:46,679
these are something that's real there's

2560
01:39:52,129 --> 01:39:48,420
something that that

2561
01:39:54,590 --> 01:39:52,139
uh you know is not in the Paranormal and

2562
01:39:58,790 --> 01:39:54,600
it should be taken as being real and

2563
01:40:03,950 --> 01:40:01,490
I loved that man there's so much we

2564
01:40:06,110 --> 01:40:03,960
could talk about there but um the human

2565
01:40:08,390 --> 01:40:06,120
aspect to it the fact that this guy was

2566
01:40:10,669 --> 01:40:08,400
completely changed by this incident is

2567
01:40:13,729 --> 01:40:10,679
uh that's my ufology that's what I'm all

2568
01:40:15,649 --> 01:40:13,739
about and to hear a pilot say that

2569
01:40:18,350 --> 01:40:15,659
um really really stood out to me and the

2570
01:40:21,649 --> 01:40:18,360
other thing that stood out to me is that

2571
01:40:23,930 --> 01:40:21,659
this just mirrored to me

2572
01:40:26,810 --> 01:40:23,940
um to an extent uh the Kenneth Arnold

2573
01:40:29,510 --> 01:40:26,820
sighting you got a pilot up there seeing

2574
01:40:31,790 --> 01:40:29,520
discs seeing saucers talking about the

2575
01:40:33,169 --> 01:40:31,800
sun reflecting off of them oh my God it

2576
01:40:34,430 --> 01:40:33,179
like gave me shivers when he started

2577
01:40:35,990 --> 01:40:34,440
telling this it's not what I was

2578
01:40:37,970 --> 01:40:36,000
expecting a lot of these Pilots come

2579
01:40:42,050 --> 01:40:37,980
forward and it's sort of these race

2580
01:40:44,330 --> 01:40:42,060
track s UFOs or just like small distant

2581
01:40:47,270 --> 01:40:44,340
dots in the sky but the fact that he was

2582
01:40:49,669 --> 01:40:47,280
close enough to see like a disc shape um

2583
01:40:51,770 --> 01:40:49,679
that's pretty damn close let's be

2584
01:40:53,330 --> 01:40:51,780
completely honest and these things were

2585
01:40:56,090 --> 01:40:53,340
probably pretty big

2586
01:40:58,070 --> 01:40:56,100
um if they were a good distance away so

2587
01:40:59,450 --> 01:40:58,080
um yeah what did you make of this uh

2588
01:41:01,850 --> 01:40:59,460
this clip here

2589
01:41:03,590 --> 01:41:01,860
I'm absolutely loving the amount of

2590
01:41:05,510 --> 01:41:03,600
commercial pilots coming forward now and

2591
01:41:07,790 --> 01:41:05,520
talking about this because one once

2592
01:41:10,010 --> 01:41:07,800
again it's an educational opportunity

2593
01:41:11,390 --> 01:41:10,020
right like we have new things going in

2594
01:41:13,370 --> 01:41:11,400
the sky that we won't know what they

2595
01:41:14,689 --> 01:41:13,380
look like yet uh like the race track UAP

2596
01:41:16,250 --> 01:41:14,699
you know some of them were found to be

2597
01:41:18,169 --> 01:41:16,260
starlink and the effect that it was

2598
01:41:20,149 --> 01:41:18,179
having made it look like these things

2599
01:41:21,530 --> 01:41:20,159
will go into racetrack patterns but at

2600
01:41:22,970 --> 01:41:21,540
the same time some of those Pilots say

2601
01:41:25,070 --> 01:41:22,980
nope that's not what that looked like

2602
01:41:27,229 --> 01:41:25,080
you know this was a circular kind of

2603
01:41:28,550 --> 01:41:27,239
racetrack that was going on not not you

2604
01:41:29,750 --> 01:41:28,560
know something disappearing and then

2605
01:41:31,189 --> 01:41:29,760
something else coming in and making it

2606
01:41:32,090 --> 01:41:31,199
look that way

2607
01:41:35,330 --> 01:41:32,100
um

2608
01:41:38,450 --> 01:41:35,340
to solve UAP we need the info to get the

2609
01:41:40,070 --> 01:41:38,460
info we have to listen and that's what

2610
01:41:41,689 --> 01:41:40,080
uh you know Brian does so well on the

2611
01:41:43,370 --> 01:41:41,699
merge podcast and he has the expertise

2612
01:41:45,410 --> 01:41:43,380
to follow up with the right questions as

2613
01:41:47,090 --> 01:41:45,420
well you know these Pilots aren't stupid

2614
01:41:48,590 --> 01:41:47,100
they're just telling us what they

2615
01:41:50,930 --> 01:41:48,600
experienced

2616
01:41:52,550 --> 01:41:50,940
is the discs coming from space a sign

2617
01:41:53,990 --> 01:41:52,560
that these things come from space not

2618
01:41:55,609 --> 01:41:54,000
necessarily we could be looking at

2619
01:41:57,770 --> 01:41:55,619
signature management right like that's

2620
01:42:01,370 --> 01:41:57,780
come up as one of the five observables

2621
01:42:02,810 --> 01:42:01,380
if I wanted if I say for example I was

2622
01:42:03,770 --> 01:42:02,820
part of a civilization that was really

2623
01:42:06,410 --> 01:42:03,780
small

2624
01:42:08,750 --> 01:42:06,420
on this planet and I didn't want people

2625
01:42:10,850 --> 01:42:08,760
to realize that I was here I would go up

2626
01:42:12,709 --> 01:42:10,860
to the atmosphere outside of the

2627
01:42:14,810 --> 01:42:12,719
atmosphere and come down or at least you

2628
01:42:16,550 --> 01:42:14,820
know outside of that radar height and

2629
01:42:19,129 --> 01:42:16,560
come down and make people think that I

2630
01:42:21,229 --> 01:42:19,139
was coming from there uh that's the

2631
01:42:23,209 --> 01:42:21,239
signature management right and and now

2632
01:42:24,950 --> 01:42:23,219
instead of talking about oh hey you know

2633
01:42:26,149 --> 01:42:24,960
is there another civilization on Earth

2634
01:42:27,649 --> 01:42:26,159
we're talking about if there's

2635
01:42:29,270 --> 01:42:27,659
civilization is on the moon and things

2636
01:42:31,430 --> 01:42:29,280
like that and arguing about Interstellar

2637
01:42:34,430 --> 01:42:31,440
travel but at the same time

2638
01:42:35,930 --> 01:42:34,440
these things could be showing us things

2639
01:42:38,930 --> 01:42:35,940
that they would like us to build you

2640
01:42:40,669 --> 01:42:38,940
know like our idea of flight came from

2641
01:42:42,470 --> 01:42:40,679
watching Birds kind of flying kind of

2642
01:42:44,030 --> 01:42:42,480
going hey could we do that and how is

2643
01:42:45,950 --> 01:42:44,040
what's the physics of that how does it

2644
01:42:47,750 --> 01:42:45,960
work and that's kind of where we're at

2645
01:42:50,470 --> 01:42:47,760
with this UAP stuff as well now we're

2646
01:42:52,729 --> 01:42:50,480
going to be looking to as in the UFO

2647
01:42:55,669 --> 01:42:52,739
reports from you know arrow and things

2648
01:42:57,950 --> 01:42:55,679
like that it says we we want to exploit

2649
01:42:59,810 --> 01:42:57,960
these abilities which essentially means

2650
01:43:01,430 --> 01:42:59,820
copying them for ourselves right whether

2651
01:43:03,410 --> 01:43:01,440
it's for weapons or whether it's just to

2652
01:43:05,990 --> 01:43:03,420
go to you know for me to hop over to

2653
01:43:06,649 --> 01:43:06,000
Scotland and come see you in an instant

2654
01:43:08,270 --> 01:43:06,659
um

2655
01:43:10,510 --> 01:43:08,280
all of these things would change the

2656
01:43:13,490 --> 01:43:10,520
world but you're absolutely right no one

2657
01:43:15,830 --> 01:43:13,500
no one in human history has ever asked

2658
01:43:18,470 --> 01:43:15,840
for an existential crisis and for trauma

2659
01:43:21,709 --> 01:43:18,480
and yet here we have a commercial pilot

2660
01:43:23,450 --> 01:43:21,719
who is involved with you know making

2661
01:43:25,070 --> 01:43:23,460
sure that a whole bunch of people stay

2662
01:43:26,870 --> 01:43:25,080
alive in this you know metal tube that

2663
01:43:27,770 --> 01:43:26,880
he flies from one side of the world to

2664
01:43:30,470 --> 01:43:27,780
the other

2665
01:43:33,530 --> 01:43:30,480
telling us that what he's been presented

2666
01:43:36,590 --> 01:43:33,540
with is way out of his depth these are

2667
01:43:38,930 --> 01:43:36,600
the experts we need to listen to them it

2668
01:43:40,129 --> 01:43:38,940
also uh kind of going back to that kind

2669
01:43:42,050 --> 01:43:40,139
of inspiring us to go a certain

2670
01:43:44,149 --> 01:43:42,060
direction it makes me think of the

2671
01:43:45,830 --> 01:43:44,159
aerial School Landings and the message

2672
01:43:46,609 --> 01:43:45,840
that was given to I think it was Cynthia

2673
01:43:49,129 --> 01:43:46,619
right

2674
01:43:50,870 --> 01:43:49,139
um where she was told that Humanity

2675
01:43:52,910 --> 01:43:50,880
should be careful and not get too

2676
01:43:54,709 --> 01:43:52,920
technology so are we dealing with

2677
01:43:56,390 --> 01:43:54,719
something that wants us to go a certain

2678
01:43:58,370 --> 01:43:56,400
way and something that's saying no no no

2679
01:44:01,550 --> 01:43:58,380
you don't want to go that way you know

2680
01:44:03,350 --> 01:44:01,560
maybe that's an offshoot of humanity to

2681
01:44:05,209 --> 01:44:03,360
go back to that kind of time idea that

2682
01:44:06,890 --> 01:44:05,219
we've touched on maybe that's an

2683
01:44:08,930 --> 01:44:06,900
offshoot of humanity that has kind of

2684
01:44:10,370 --> 01:44:08,940
lost their ability to enjoy life or

2685
01:44:12,050 --> 01:44:10,380
something like that and it's coming back

2686
01:44:14,629 --> 01:44:12,060
to kind of go okay where did we go rock

2687
01:44:17,090 --> 01:44:14,639
how can we change this and and make the

2688
01:44:18,890 --> 01:44:17,100
you know keep that all as part of

2689
01:44:21,050 --> 01:44:18,900
humanity

2690
01:44:23,390 --> 01:44:21,060
um it's making the intangible tangible

2691
01:44:25,370 --> 01:44:23,400
uh and listening to commercial pilots as

2692
01:44:27,410 --> 01:44:25,380
well we've had a commercial pilot for a

2693
01:44:29,810 --> 01:44:27,420
long time now talking openly about a

2694
01:44:32,090 --> 01:44:29,820
situation uh Kurt Russell with the

2695
01:44:34,310 --> 01:44:32,100
Phoenix Lights oh right he was coming

2696
01:44:36,050 --> 01:44:34,320
into land you you know he sold them he

2697
01:44:38,450 --> 01:44:36,060
was up in this guy we knew about that

2698
01:44:40,609 --> 01:44:38,460
that pilot existed and that landed and

2699
01:44:42,530 --> 01:44:40,619
it was only years later when he saw the

2700
01:44:44,930 --> 01:44:42,540
documentary on TV that he remembered

2701
01:44:47,390 --> 01:44:44,940
that he was the pilot that saw that and

2702
01:44:49,370 --> 01:44:47,400
reported it and again so many

2703
01:44:52,189 --> 01:44:49,380
implications right it's like he was

2704
01:44:54,229 --> 01:44:52,199
primed for a situation to go out and

2705
01:44:56,390 --> 01:44:54,239
kind of spread a message and Andy and I

2706
01:44:58,810 --> 01:44:56,400
talk about that all the time is is it

2707
01:45:00,890 --> 01:44:58,820
that these experts and these amazingly

2708
01:45:02,390 --> 01:45:00,900
well-rounded thinkers are being

2709
01:45:03,950 --> 01:45:02,400
presented with something that's just

2710
01:45:06,109 --> 01:45:03,960
going to nudge us down a certain path

2711
01:45:08,330 --> 01:45:06,119
and Primus I think it was the Vietnam

2712
01:45:10,250 --> 01:45:08,340
War that America was all about

2713
01:45:12,109 --> 01:45:10,260
um you know in they said it's about

2714
01:45:14,030 --> 01:45:12,119
hearts and Minds it's not about how many

2715
01:45:16,370 --> 01:45:14,040
people you can kill it's about making

2716
01:45:17,750 --> 01:45:16,380
the adversary agree with you and if you

2717
01:45:18,950 --> 01:45:17,760
can make the whole country agree with

2718
01:45:20,149 --> 01:45:18,960
you then the politicians are going to

2719
01:45:22,010 --> 01:45:20,159
change their mind the war's going to

2720
01:45:23,629 --> 01:45:22,020
change and so on so forth is that what

2721
01:45:24,950 --> 01:45:23,639
we're seeing are we being primed for

2722
01:45:27,729 --> 01:45:24,960
contact right now is that what we're

2723
01:45:31,310 --> 01:45:27,739
going through really makes you think

2724
01:45:33,350 --> 01:45:31,320
it does wow winning a war through hearts

2725
01:45:36,290 --> 01:45:33,360
and Minds I I've never really thought

2726
01:45:39,169 --> 01:45:36,300
about that that's fascinating

2727
01:45:40,390 --> 01:45:39,179
um everyone in the chat is saying snake

2728
01:45:43,070 --> 01:45:40,400
snake

2729
01:45:44,870 --> 01:45:43,080
I love them some Kurt Russell I wish

2730
01:45:48,229 --> 01:45:44,880
Grant levock was here I think he's like

2731
01:45:51,050 --> 01:45:48,239
the biggest Kurt Russell fan in history

2732
01:45:52,910 --> 01:45:51,060
um awesome man um well anything else you

2733
01:45:54,950 --> 01:45:52,920
want to close with with our podcast

2734
01:45:56,870 --> 01:45:54,960
highlights of the week before we got one

2735
01:46:00,830 --> 01:45:56,880
more really fun clip to show everyone

2736
01:46:04,609 --> 01:46:03,050
trying to think I mean there's so much

2737
01:46:07,370 --> 01:46:04,619
every week right it's hard to keep up

2738
01:46:09,890 --> 01:46:07,380
and and maybe so nothing specific but

2739
01:46:11,629 --> 01:46:09,900
just to say people that think that we'd

2740
01:46:12,530 --> 01:46:11,639
experienced nothing burger after nothing

2741
01:46:14,810 --> 01:46:12,540
Burger

2742
01:46:16,669 --> 01:46:14,820
are both are like delusional to me we

2743
01:46:17,750 --> 01:46:16,679
are so much further in the subject than

2744
01:46:20,030 --> 01:46:17,760
we were

2745
01:46:22,129 --> 01:46:20,040
um I said to Lou the other day uh I

2746
01:46:23,870 --> 01:46:22,139
don't think UFOs has ever been in a

2747
01:46:26,209 --> 01:46:23,880
better place I don't think UFOs has ever

2748
01:46:29,450 --> 01:46:26,219
been more popular and mainstream and he

2749
01:46:31,010 --> 01:46:29,460
agreed and it's everywhere and we we

2750
01:46:32,689 --> 01:46:31,020
just got a kind of you know occasionally

2751
01:46:34,609 --> 01:46:32,699
sit back take a sip of wine and smell

2752
01:46:36,109 --> 01:46:34,619
the roses and accept that you know

2753
01:46:37,729 --> 01:46:36,119
people are going to come and take this

2754
01:46:40,030 --> 01:46:37,739
subject from the community soon because

2755
01:46:43,070 --> 01:46:40,040
they're going to be taking it seriously

2756
01:46:44,750 --> 01:46:43,080
yeah it's so true it's so true that's

2757
01:46:47,810 --> 01:46:44,760
kind of why I started doing the show too

2758
01:46:51,709 --> 01:46:47,820
is because I was getting very

2759
01:46:54,770 --> 01:46:51,719
um kind of jaded and and bored of a lot

2760
01:46:57,109 --> 01:46:54,780
of the the more uh government-esque side

2761
01:46:59,450 --> 01:46:57,119
of all this stuff going on

2762
01:47:01,070 --> 01:46:59,460
um but and I was one of those people who

2763
01:47:03,649 --> 01:47:01,080
was like there's not a lot happening

2764
01:47:07,250 --> 01:47:03,659
like okay the report came out we didn't

2765
01:47:08,990 --> 01:47:07,260
get [\h__\h] um but the more I do this the

2766
01:47:11,510 --> 01:47:09,000
more I'm digging up stories left and

2767
01:47:12,830 --> 01:47:11,520
right connected to the UAP topic that

2768
01:47:14,930 --> 01:47:12,840
keeps me excited and keeps me

2769
01:47:16,490 --> 01:47:14,940
invigorated and every week I'm like oh

2770
01:47:19,010 --> 01:47:16,500
God what am I going to cover next week

2771
01:47:22,370 --> 01:47:19,020
and I don't even have to dig that far

2772
01:47:25,310 --> 01:47:22,380
like it's just constantly bombarding us

2773
01:47:27,290 --> 01:47:25,320
from every corner so um it's exciting

2774
01:47:29,990 --> 01:47:27,300
man it's really cool

2775
01:47:32,450 --> 01:47:30,000
um well hey one last clip about

2776
01:47:34,609 --> 01:47:32,460
something that was really cool

2777
01:47:36,470 --> 01:47:34,619
um probably one of my all-time favorite

2778
01:47:39,470 --> 01:47:36,480
filmmakers I'm sure a lot of you out

2779
01:47:43,510 --> 01:47:39,480
there too Steven Spielberg oh God I'm so

2780
01:47:49,310 --> 01:47:46,970
George Lucas

2781
01:47:51,470 --> 01:47:49,320
um yeah Steven Spielberg our Close

2782
01:47:54,830 --> 01:47:51,480
Encounters of the Third Kind men are ET

2783
01:47:57,770 --> 01:47:54,840
man um he was on the Stephen Colbert

2784
01:48:00,649 --> 01:47:57,780
show The Late Show and uh was asked

2785
01:48:02,810 --> 01:48:00,659
about UFOs and you know we we've had

2786
01:48:05,090 --> 01:48:02,820
Spielberg talk about it in the past in

2787
01:48:08,990 --> 01:48:05,100
interviews um somewhat but this was a

2788
01:48:10,729 --> 01:48:09,000
pretty very now very modern take on

2789
01:48:12,950 --> 01:48:10,739
what's going on in the UFO World from

2790
01:48:15,050 --> 01:48:12,960
Steven Spielberg so I'm gonna go ahead

2791
01:48:17,330 --> 01:48:15,060
and play this clip and pray to God I

2792
01:48:19,129 --> 01:48:17,340
don't get a copyright strike

2793
01:48:20,930 --> 01:48:19,139
um but let's go ahead and do that that

2794
01:48:23,149 --> 01:48:20,940
goes for all our podcast highlights too

2795
01:48:25,609 --> 01:48:23,159
Jeremy Corbell George Knapp Andy

2796
01:48:27,890 --> 01:48:25,619
mcgrillin uh Ryan Graves please do not

2797
01:48:30,590 --> 01:48:27,900
sue me please do not copyright strike me

2798
01:48:33,229 --> 01:48:30,600
I promise to give you guys all the

2799
01:48:34,970 --> 01:48:33,239
credit next time um but yes there's my

2800
01:48:37,970 --> 01:48:34,980
disclaimer let's go ahead and play this

2801
01:48:41,649 --> 01:48:37,980
clip from Stephen Colbert's Late Show

2802
01:48:46,910 --> 01:48:44,689
hmm what do you think man Spielberg

2803
01:48:48,530 --> 01:48:46,920
commenting on the current state of

2804
01:48:51,770 --> 01:48:48,540
ufology

2805
01:48:53,330 --> 01:48:51,780
I I would absolutely love to sit in a

2806
01:48:56,330 --> 01:48:53,340
room with Stephen and just speak about

2807
01:48:57,590 --> 01:48:56,340
UFOs uh it's great that he kind of just

2808
01:49:00,530 --> 01:48:57,600
comes out and says look you know I don't

2809
01:49:01,609 --> 01:49:00,540
know more than you guys uh and he he

2810
01:49:03,350 --> 01:49:01,619
speaks about

2811
01:49:05,629 --> 01:49:03,360
um to see is to believe

2812
01:49:07,310 --> 01:49:05,639
which now we're just like well not

2813
01:49:08,810 --> 01:49:07,320
necessarily it's even because you can

2814
01:49:10,390 --> 01:49:08,820
make people see things that don't exist

2815
01:49:13,010 --> 01:49:10,400
as well you know

2816
01:49:14,270 --> 01:49:13,020
yeah yeah and yeah that's that's

2817
01:49:16,490 --> 01:49:14,280
actually a really good point you know

2818
01:49:18,109 --> 01:49:16,500
his job is to to create narratives that

2819
01:49:19,850 --> 01:49:18,119
influence people and and you know

2820
01:49:22,129 --> 01:49:19,860
communicate truths of the universe and

2821
01:49:24,410 --> 01:49:22,139
that could be what we're seeing

2822
01:49:27,109 --> 01:49:24,420
um but yeah it's fascinating to hear him

2823
01:49:29,570 --> 01:49:27,119
talk about it I I love how poppable his

2824
01:49:30,890 --> 01:49:29,580
excitement is uh and it makes me think

2825
01:49:32,390 --> 01:49:30,900
of that you know the bit in Independence

2826
01:49:34,250 --> 01:49:32,400
Day when uh they get to the mad

2827
01:49:35,810 --> 01:49:34,260
scientist in Area 51 and the guy's like

2828
01:49:37,550 --> 01:49:35,820
it's a really exciting week and they're

2829
01:49:39,830 --> 01:49:37,560
like really exciting that's the word

2830
01:49:43,689 --> 01:49:39,840
you're gonna pick all right the world is

2831
01:49:47,109 --> 01:49:43,699
being annihilated and yeah

2832
01:49:50,390 --> 01:49:47,119
51. cool bro

2833
01:49:52,189 --> 01:49:50,400
exactly uh he makes a great point in

2834
01:49:53,810 --> 01:49:52,199
terms of kind of saying mathematically

2835
01:49:55,729 --> 01:49:53,820
impossible that whether you need to have

2836
01:49:57,109 --> 01:49:55,739
different species in the universe

2837
01:49:58,970 --> 01:49:57,119
um it would have been great if you kind

2838
01:50:00,890 --> 01:49:58,980
of went a bit further and kind of said

2839
01:50:02,689 --> 01:50:00,900
you know we're starting to redefine the

2840
01:50:05,030 --> 01:50:02,699
intelligences that live around us on

2841
01:50:06,290 --> 01:50:05,040
this planet and real realizing that you

2842
01:50:09,169 --> 01:50:06,300
know just a

2843
01:50:12,229 --> 01:50:09,179
the term that non-human intelligence

2844
01:50:14,450 --> 01:50:12,239
a crow is under that a way I remember

2845
01:50:16,129 --> 01:50:14,460
that a giraffe is under there it's you

2846
01:50:18,109 --> 01:50:16,139
know we don't we don't have the language

2847
01:50:19,609 --> 01:50:18,119
to explain what it is we're seeing yet

2848
01:50:21,770 --> 01:50:19,619
like Leslie said in the toe interview

2849
01:50:23,689 --> 01:50:21,780
what what is an unidentified anomalous

2850
01:50:26,450 --> 01:50:23,699
phenomena it's just something outside of

2851
01:50:28,490 --> 01:50:26,460
the bounds of known science

2852
01:50:29,750 --> 01:50:28,500
um I had a note here about kind of

2853
01:50:31,310 --> 01:50:29,760
signature management but we've already

2854
01:50:32,030 --> 01:50:31,320
touched on that

2855
01:50:33,470 --> 01:50:32,040
um

2856
01:50:37,070 --> 01:50:33,480
what's what's interesting is that

2857
01:50:38,450 --> 01:50:37,080
Steven's original idea for et you know

2858
01:50:40,430 --> 01:50:38,460
that that kind of became love and light

2859
01:50:42,709 --> 01:50:40,440
in a kid's film but his original idea

2860
01:50:44,750 --> 01:50:42,719
for et was much closer to science there

2861
01:50:46,729 --> 01:50:44,760
was a family Under Siege on a farmhouse

2862
01:50:49,729 --> 01:50:46,739
from from an alien

2863
01:50:52,070 --> 01:50:49,739
you know alien visitors and at some

2864
01:50:53,750 --> 01:50:52,080
point in the process he refined it and

2865
01:50:55,129 --> 01:50:53,760
kind of got rid of all that evil side of

2866
01:50:57,729 --> 01:50:55,139
stuff and and made it this family

2867
01:51:01,430 --> 01:50:57,739
friendly film that we know and and love

2868
01:51:03,770 --> 01:51:01,440
and there's a big aspect of this

2869
01:51:05,510 --> 01:51:03,780
whole phenomenon thing you know we that

2870
01:51:07,250 --> 01:51:05,520
really interests me and that is

2871
01:51:10,310 --> 01:51:07,260
consciousness and the idea that we can

2872
01:51:13,790 --> 01:51:10,320
be inspired to do things this tracks all

2873
01:51:17,209 --> 01:51:13,800
the way back to why why did we build the

2874
01:51:19,189 --> 01:51:17,219
first rocket Jack Parsons the idea

2875
01:51:23,270 --> 01:51:19,199
didn't come from Norway Jack Parsons was

2876
01:51:24,950 --> 01:51:23,280
known for his kind of esoteric uh kind

2877
01:51:27,050 --> 01:51:24,960
of slant and he would go and perform

2878
01:51:28,609 --> 01:51:27,060
rituals in the desert and according to

2879
01:51:33,530 --> 01:51:28,619
him

2880
01:51:35,510 --> 01:51:33,540
rocket to reach the stars and it makes

2881
01:51:37,729 --> 01:51:35,520
you wonder where that idea came from is

2882
01:51:41,090 --> 01:51:37,739
it that there's a being that's given us

2883
01:51:42,649 --> 01:51:41,100
these ideas uh you know and ideas seem

2884
01:51:43,970 --> 01:51:42,659
to come from more than one place as well

2885
01:51:45,590 --> 01:51:43,980
so is there something that we're all

2886
01:51:47,149 --> 01:51:45,600
taping into that it's just the first

2887
01:51:48,290 --> 01:51:47,159
person to act on it kind of gets the

2888
01:51:50,450 --> 01:51:48,300
credit

2889
01:51:52,010 --> 01:51:50,460
um and what is guiding us from there

2890
01:51:53,149 --> 01:51:52,020
it's a really intriguing part of the

2891
01:51:54,709 --> 01:51:53,159
conversation that we just don't

2892
01:51:56,629 --> 01:51:54,719
understand because we don't understand

2893
01:51:59,030 --> 01:51:56,639
Consciousness or inspiration or the

2894
01:52:01,669 --> 01:51:59,040
imagination and we're just starting to

2895
01:52:03,350 --> 01:52:01,679
get to the idea of multiverses

2896
01:52:04,790 --> 01:52:03,360
um and if I'm not careful I'm going to

2897
01:52:06,410 --> 01:52:04,800
go into the kind of whole dreams being

2898
01:52:10,010 --> 01:52:06,420
like about multiverses that the doctor

2899
01:52:12,410 --> 01:52:10,020
strange presented so but uh but I loved

2900
01:52:14,750 --> 01:52:12,420
what's even said about

2901
01:52:16,490 --> 01:52:14,760
um and both Stevens in fact they they

2902
01:52:18,109 --> 01:52:16,500
kind of had a bit of a joke about uh

2903
01:52:21,070 --> 01:52:18,119
Spielberg getting away with showing full

2904
01:52:23,270 --> 01:52:21,080
frontal nudity of an alien species

2905
01:52:26,510 --> 01:52:23,280
and it's such a good point because the

2906
01:52:30,950 --> 01:52:26,520
Grays are always naked and called a

2907
01:52:33,649 --> 01:52:30,960
Colbert how do call back yeah okay as an

2908
01:52:36,530 --> 01:52:33,659
American you get to Define that for me

2909
01:52:38,390 --> 01:52:36,540
um I'm probably wrong he he kind of says

2910
01:52:41,209 --> 01:52:38,400
well you know what what if the Grays

2911
01:52:43,189 --> 01:52:41,219
were in skin tight suits and in recent

2912
01:52:46,070 --> 01:52:43,199
years we've heard well the Grays might

2913
01:52:48,410 --> 01:52:46,080
not even be beings they might be avatars

2914
01:52:50,030 --> 01:52:48,420
and when you kind of get to that area of

2915
01:52:52,669 --> 01:52:50,040
discussion you've got to wonder like why

2916
01:52:54,350 --> 01:52:52,679
why would you use an avatar so it could

2917
01:52:57,470 --> 01:52:54,360
be to cross the vast Interstellar

2918
01:53:00,169 --> 01:52:57,480
distances it could be even to kind of go

2919
01:53:03,169 --> 01:53:00,179
outside the lines a little bit here that

2920
01:53:05,330 --> 01:53:03,179
some other you know Multiverse

2921
01:53:07,070 --> 01:53:05,340
cannot function here so they have to

2922
01:53:10,010 --> 01:53:07,080
send these avatars to function in their

2923
01:53:11,450 --> 01:53:10,020
place and report back and they're all

2924
01:53:14,149 --> 01:53:11,460
such kind of

2925
01:53:16,310 --> 01:53:14,159
potent loaded things to talk about but

2926
01:53:18,890 --> 01:53:16,320
it just speaks to how little information

2927
01:53:20,990 --> 01:53:18,900
we have about this phenomena

2928
01:53:22,430 --> 01:53:21,000
um and I intend that as a plural thing

2929
01:53:24,169 --> 01:53:22,440
because we could have multiple species

2930
01:53:26,810 --> 01:53:24,179
interacted in multiple parts of life

2931
01:53:29,689 --> 01:53:26,820
that we're just unaware of interacting

2932
01:53:31,310 --> 01:53:29,699
um 90 I think it's like 95 uh it's

2933
01:53:33,470 --> 01:53:31,320
something around there of the universe

2934
01:53:35,270 --> 01:53:33,480
is just unknown to us something occupies

2935
01:53:38,030 --> 01:53:35,280
that space something that we think of as

2936
01:53:40,189 --> 01:53:38,040
a vacuum is just

2937
01:53:41,750 --> 01:53:40,199
think of it like we're in an ocean and

2938
01:53:43,609 --> 01:53:41,760
the vacuum is the shore

2939
01:53:45,530 --> 01:53:43,619
something else could be on that Shore

2940
01:53:46,970 --> 01:53:45,540
and we just don't know about it until we

2941
01:53:48,890 --> 01:53:46,980
get there there was a really great movie

2942
01:53:50,930 --> 01:53:48,900
that came out a few years back called my

2943
01:53:52,850 --> 01:53:50,940
octopus teacher and it was about a diver

2944
01:53:55,370 --> 01:53:52,860
who who he just might dive in and he

2945
01:53:57,229 --> 01:53:55,380
befriended an octopus essentially right

2946
01:53:59,270 --> 01:53:57,239
and at some point in the movie he lifts

2947
01:54:01,430 --> 01:53:59,280
it out of the water and the second that

2948
01:54:03,050 --> 01:54:01,440
I saw that I was like oh God that's

2949
01:54:09,350 --> 01:54:03,060
that's an abduction

2950
01:54:11,990 --> 01:54:09,360
from a non- kind of universe being yeah

2951
01:54:14,330 --> 01:54:12,000
but what happened was as a result of

2952
01:54:16,550 --> 01:54:14,340
being shown that this you know new kind

2953
01:54:18,709 --> 01:54:16,560
of Paradigm existed the octopus then

2954
01:54:21,470 --> 01:54:18,719
started climbing out of the water onto

2955
01:54:24,590 --> 01:54:21,480
land to avoid predators

2956
01:54:26,930 --> 01:54:24,600
so that octopus's whole Paradigm was

2957
01:54:28,669 --> 01:54:26,940
shifted and the octopus can't go and

2958
01:54:30,109 --> 01:54:28,679
write a book and tell other octopus

2959
01:54:32,629 --> 01:54:30,119
about it right like that's just an

2960
01:54:35,629 --> 01:54:32,639
experience of that one being yet it

2961
01:54:36,470 --> 01:54:35,639
changed its whole life so you gotta want

2962
01:54:38,510 --> 01:54:36,480
to like

2963
01:54:40,850 --> 01:54:38,520
does that behave your spread now

2964
01:54:42,590 --> 01:54:40,860
does us being more intrusive to other

2965
01:54:44,209 --> 01:54:42,600
species tell the species oh there's

2966
01:54:45,830 --> 01:54:44,219
something else here and they're react in

2967
01:54:48,410 --> 01:54:45,840
like we are and they're just as curious

2968
01:54:49,729 --> 01:54:48,420
as us we really boggles the mind

2969
01:54:54,050 --> 01:54:49,739
wow

2970
01:54:55,970 --> 01:54:54,060
that film back when it came out and I

2971
01:54:58,669 --> 01:54:55,980
heard it was just so deeply emotional

2972
01:55:00,530 --> 01:54:58,679
that I wasn't in a place as I think a

2973
01:55:03,229 --> 01:55:00,540
lot of people weren't during the

2974
01:55:06,350 --> 01:55:03,239
pandemic to really uh watch something

2975
01:55:08,030 --> 01:55:06,360
that emotionally powerful but I think

2976
01:55:09,770 --> 01:55:08,040
I'm ready now especially in today's

2977
01:55:12,950 --> 01:55:09,780
world where we've kind of come out on

2978
01:55:15,590 --> 01:55:12,960
the other side realizing we can survive

2979
01:55:17,570 --> 01:55:15,600
these things we can overcome and and

2980
01:55:20,090 --> 01:55:17,580
that speaks to the the greater picture

2981
01:55:22,970 --> 01:55:20,100
of all of this you know that that's

2982
01:55:25,850 --> 01:55:22,980
that's such an interesting comparison

2983
01:55:28,070 --> 01:55:25,860
you made like it was taken out of its

2984
01:55:30,169 --> 01:55:28,080
Paradigm and now it knows there's

2985
01:55:33,109 --> 01:55:30,179
something else out there

2986
01:55:36,530 --> 01:55:33,119
um and even if it did go back into the

2987
01:55:39,010 --> 01:55:36,540
ocean and tell the other octopi you know

2988
01:55:41,390 --> 01:55:39,020
is it octopi

2989
01:55:43,370 --> 01:55:41,400
I could be a party people with this the

2990
01:55:45,109 --> 01:55:43,380
correct term is octopities because it's

2991
01:55:46,729 --> 01:55:45,119
a Greek group but since the English

2992
01:55:49,189 --> 01:55:46,739
language adopted it you can just say

2993
01:55:50,450 --> 01:55:49,199
octopuses and it's correct okay I knew

2994
01:55:54,530 --> 01:55:50,460
you would know that

2995
01:55:56,450 --> 01:55:54,540
um yeah I I I it would be interesting if

2996
01:55:58,790 --> 01:55:56,460
it did go back and say you will never

2997
01:56:00,830 --> 01:55:58,800
guess what just happened like there's a

2998
01:56:02,990 --> 01:56:00,840
whole other world out there we don't

2999
01:56:05,750 --> 01:56:03,000
have to worry about the Sharks anymore

3000
01:56:08,330 --> 01:56:05,760
or whoever's gonna hunt us

3001
01:56:10,790 --> 01:56:08,340
um we can go up here uh but just not for

3002
01:56:12,950 --> 01:56:10,800
too long we can't we can't do that

3003
01:56:15,830 --> 01:56:12,960
because then we'll die um did you ever

3004
01:56:18,169 --> 01:56:15,840
see um Pixar's soul

3005
01:56:20,990 --> 01:56:18,179
nope that was another one where I just

3006
01:56:23,810 --> 01:56:21,000
was not emotionally totally watch it

3007
01:56:25,310 --> 01:56:23,820
it's a very potent movie like I honestly

3008
01:56:26,870 --> 01:56:25,320
recommend they they actually make a

3009
01:56:29,149 --> 01:56:26,880
really good double feature but there's a

3010
01:56:31,189 --> 01:56:29,159
bit in that as well where one of the

3011
01:56:32,510 --> 01:56:31,199
beings from the afterlife is like oh

3012
01:56:34,070 --> 01:56:32,520
yeah we have to get this person back

3013
01:56:36,770 --> 01:56:34,080
into the Afterlife and they grab a

3014
01:56:38,629 --> 01:56:36,780
person and it's a mistaken identity and

3015
01:56:40,609 --> 01:56:38,639
the reaction of this person when he's

3016
01:56:43,070 --> 01:56:40,619
put back onto Earth is to just cower

3017
01:56:45,109 --> 01:56:43,080
into a ball and I was like did Pixar

3018
01:56:47,209 --> 01:56:45,119
just really casually show an abduction

3019
01:56:49,189 --> 01:56:47,219
from like a multiversal afterlife

3020
01:56:50,990 --> 01:56:49,199
perspective and show the trauma that it

3021
01:56:52,729 --> 01:56:51,000
has on someone

3022
01:56:55,370 --> 01:56:52,739
um it's a really Nifty little clip to

3023
01:56:56,930 --> 01:56:55,380
kind of you know exemplify what happens

3024
01:56:58,850 --> 01:56:56,940
to us when we're taken out of our

3025
01:57:01,490 --> 01:56:58,860
Paradigm without it being explained to

3026
01:57:03,530 --> 01:57:01,500
us yeah which is apparently what's going

3027
01:57:06,590 --> 01:57:03,540
on with a lot of people out there so

3028
01:57:09,169 --> 01:57:06,600
yeah absolutely fascinating man well hey

3029
01:57:11,209 --> 01:57:09,179
we have covered a lot I've kept you way

3030
01:57:12,890 --> 01:57:11,219
longer than I had told you I was going

3031
01:57:15,050 --> 01:57:12,900
to keep you I know you still have the

3032
01:57:18,350 --> 01:57:15,060
whole day ahead of you

3033
01:57:20,750 --> 01:57:18,360
um so and any final words before we wrap

3034
01:57:23,030 --> 01:57:20,760
this up my man and get all your socials

3035
01:57:26,510 --> 01:57:23,040
and all that um anything anything you

3036
01:57:29,870 --> 01:57:26,520
want to leave our audience with tonight

3037
01:57:32,629 --> 01:57:29,880
just I would say to

3038
01:57:34,609 --> 01:57:32,639
keep looking up be open-minded but not

3039
01:57:35,689 --> 01:57:34,619
so much so that your brain's gonna fall

3040
01:57:38,270 --> 01:57:35,699
out

3041
01:57:40,910 --> 01:57:38,280
um consider things that you consider

3042
01:57:42,410 --> 01:57:40,920
challenging for example I've just

3043
01:57:44,990 --> 01:57:42,420
finished reading three body problem book

3044
01:57:46,370 --> 01:57:45,000
book series and so many people just tell

3045
01:57:48,290 --> 01:57:46,380
me oh I didn't read it because it was a

3046
01:57:51,169 --> 01:57:48,300
hard read you know what

3047
01:57:52,430 --> 01:57:51,179
unfortunately you're missing out on on a

3048
01:57:54,350 --> 01:57:52,440
lot of ideas and things that are

3049
01:57:55,970 --> 01:57:54,360
presenting that though it's tough and

3050
01:57:57,950 --> 01:57:55,980
it's challenging it actually will lead

3051
01:58:00,169 --> 01:57:57,960
you to kind of a new plateau in terms of

3052
01:58:01,970 --> 01:58:00,179
how you think of the subject so I would

3053
01:58:04,010 --> 01:58:01,980
just tell everyone you know consider the

3054
01:58:05,629 --> 01:58:04,020
impossible really try and understand

3055
01:58:08,450 --> 01:58:05,639
what it means when we say the universe

3056
01:58:10,570 --> 01:58:08,460
is infinite go out tonight and stare a

3057
01:58:12,830 --> 01:58:10,580
bit of the sky that is completely black

3058
01:58:14,510 --> 01:58:12,840
and try and get your head around the

3059
01:58:16,370 --> 01:58:14,520
fact that you're looking at millions and

3060
01:58:18,709 --> 01:58:16,380
millions of galaxies with millions of

3061
01:58:21,229 --> 01:58:18,719
stars with millions of planets even

3062
01:58:23,209 --> 01:58:21,239
though you can't see that far

3063
01:58:24,709 --> 01:58:23,219
and then just try and think about the

3064
01:58:26,689 --> 01:58:24,719
implications for that and sit with it

3065
01:58:28,750 --> 01:58:26,699
for a moment because it's it's really

3066
01:58:31,370 --> 01:58:28,760
powerful

3067
01:58:34,089 --> 01:58:31,380
amazing well I'm just gonna end the show

3068
01:58:39,109 --> 01:58:34,099
there I can't top that so bye everybody

3069
01:58:41,629 --> 01:58:39,119
bye no dude thank you um this was uh a

3070
01:58:43,550 --> 01:58:41,639
very rewarding conversation tonight I'm

3071
01:58:46,189 --> 01:58:43,560
so happy that you were able to run

3072
01:58:49,790 --> 01:58:46,199
through all of this with us uh but

3073
01:58:51,950 --> 01:58:49,800
before we go please let us know Dan what

3074
01:58:54,109 --> 01:58:51,960
is coming up next for you and where can

3075
01:58:57,410 --> 01:58:54,119
everyone find everything you're up to

3076
01:58:59,330 --> 01:58:57,420
sure so uh you can find me over at you

3077
01:59:01,550 --> 01:58:59,340
know I do the the breakdowns with Andy

3078
01:59:03,709 --> 01:59:01,560
over on that UFO podcast on all my

3079
01:59:05,990 --> 01:59:03,719
socials it's the signal I like the

3080
01:59:09,290 --> 01:59:06,000
signal but with the Zed instead of an S

3081
01:59:11,390 --> 01:59:09,300
um thanks to my surname and uh and also

3082
01:59:13,070 --> 01:59:11,400
what what's coming up for me is

3083
01:59:14,870 --> 01:59:13,080
you're gonna see probably a few more

3084
01:59:16,669 --> 01:59:14,880
book covers that we've been able to make

3085
01:59:19,010 --> 01:59:16,679
uh for certain people I won't support

3086
01:59:20,450 --> 01:59:19,020
the surprise but they're very cool and

3087
01:59:22,550 --> 01:59:20,460
also we've got season two of

3088
01:59:24,530 --> 01:59:22,560
phenomenology coming up where Vinnie

3089
01:59:26,570 --> 01:59:24,540
from disclosure team and I uh

3090
01:59:28,490 --> 01:59:26,580
with a whole bunch of other amazing

3091
01:59:30,830 --> 01:59:28,500
people Elena Priscilla

3092
01:59:33,169 --> 01:59:30,840
um an Australian musician uh Hayden who

3093
01:59:35,270 --> 01:59:33,179
just really thinks outside the box uh

3094
01:59:36,950 --> 01:59:35,280
we're all going back to Colombia during

3095
01:59:39,109 --> 01:59:36,960
Holy Week where the Lights On The

3096
01:59:41,870 --> 01:59:39,119
Mountain are meant to be

3097
01:59:43,430 --> 01:59:41,880
more active we're taking a whole bunch

3098
01:59:45,410 --> 01:59:43,440
of more equipment with us so like

3099
01:59:47,089 --> 01:59:45,420
thermal drones and things like that and

3100
01:59:49,430 --> 01:59:47,099
we're going to start drilling down to

3101
01:59:51,890 --> 01:59:49,440
see if we can't get rid of a lot of low

3102
01:59:53,570 --> 01:59:51,900
hanging fruit uh that people like you

3103
01:59:54,649 --> 01:59:53,580
know someone like Mick West would say oh

3104
01:59:56,270 --> 01:59:54,659
yeah you know it's hikers on the

3105
01:59:58,370 --> 01:59:56,280
mountain holding a light we can easily

3106
01:59:59,629 --> 01:59:58,380
disprove that or prove it you know so

3107
02:00:02,149 --> 01:59:59,639
we're going to go back we're going to

3108
02:00:03,890 --> 02:00:02,159
apply uh science we're going to learn a

3109
02:00:06,109 --> 02:00:03,900
little bit more and uh

3110
02:00:07,550 --> 02:00:06,119
look to minor Vinnie's socials for a

3111
02:00:09,830 --> 02:00:07,560
couple of like behind the scenes stuff

3112
02:00:11,330 --> 02:00:09,840
during that time and for season two to

3113
02:00:13,790 --> 02:00:11,340
come out later this year

3114
02:00:15,649 --> 02:00:13,800
awesome man yeah building on the work

3115
02:00:17,930 --> 02:00:15,659
you guys did before that's what this is

3116
02:00:20,270 --> 02:00:17,940
all about uh I can't wait for that

3117
02:00:23,330 --> 02:00:20,280
jealous a little envious not gonna lie

3118
02:00:26,570 --> 02:00:23,340
but um but it is what it is I'll make it

3119
02:00:28,430 --> 02:00:26,580
out there eventually I would be so

3120
02:00:30,169 --> 02:00:28,440
honored to like work with you guys it

3121
02:00:32,030 --> 02:00:30,179
would be amazing technology we'll make

3122
02:00:34,609 --> 02:00:32,040
it happen we'll make it happen

3123
02:00:36,109 --> 02:00:34,619
um Dan thank you thank you so much for

3124
02:00:38,270 --> 02:00:36,119
joining us tonight on the live stream

3125
02:00:41,089 --> 02:00:38,280
I'm Gonna Let You Go and debrief with

3126
02:00:44,030 --> 02:00:41,099
the audience here for a little bit and

3127
02:00:47,450 --> 02:00:44,040
um and talk about you behind your back

3128
02:00:49,729 --> 02:00:47,460
wait I didn't mean that no thank you so

3129
02:00:51,770 --> 02:00:49,739
much brother you know I love you

3130
02:00:53,629 --> 02:00:51,780
um chat's blowing up with thank yous for

3131
02:00:54,890 --> 02:00:53,639
having you on tonight uh they love you

3132
02:00:57,350 --> 02:00:54,900
as well

3133
02:00:59,870 --> 02:00:57,360
um so we will have you back on in the

3134
02:01:02,450 --> 02:00:59,880
near future and I'm wishing you all the

3135
02:01:04,910 --> 02:01:02,460
best with everything coming up um it's

3136
02:01:07,310 --> 02:01:04,920
awesome we're very very lucky and

3137
02:01:08,689 --> 02:01:07,320
fortunate to have you in the field uh

3138
02:01:09,890 --> 02:01:08,699
thank you so much for your kindness and

3139
02:01:12,709 --> 02:01:09,900
to everyone in the chat as well it's

3140
02:01:14,810 --> 02:01:12,719
been an absolute blast it's it's a pinch

3141
02:01:16,910 --> 02:01:14,820
me moment that I even get to talk about

3142
02:01:18,589 --> 02:01:16,920
this on a platform like this so

3143
02:01:20,390 --> 02:01:18,599
sincerely thank you man and thank you

3144
02:01:22,490 --> 02:01:20,400
for doing what you do too it's all

3145
02:01:23,270 --> 02:01:22,500
contributes it faster alone further

3146
02:01:26,570 --> 02:01:23,280
together

3147
02:01:28,729 --> 02:01:26,580
absolutely my pleasure my honor man I'm

3148
02:01:34,990 --> 02:01:28,739
gonna let you go and have a great night

3149
02:01:40,850 --> 02:01:37,970
wow guys that was amazing

3150
02:01:43,189 --> 02:01:40,860
um Dan everyone everyone who's come on

3151
02:01:45,410 --> 02:01:43,199
the the live stream so far has put in so

3152
02:01:46,729 --> 02:01:45,420
much time and effort to help me out here

3153
02:01:48,350 --> 02:01:46,739
at the channel

3154
02:01:51,109 --> 02:01:48,360
um and building this and making it

3155
02:01:53,330 --> 02:01:51,119
bigger better and more insightful so

3156
02:01:56,750 --> 02:01:53,340
again my special thanks to everyone has

3157
02:01:59,930 --> 02:01:56,760
come on so far Graham Vinnie uh we had

3158
02:02:01,490 --> 02:01:59,940
Grant levock uh we had Dan um we're

3159
02:02:03,770 --> 02:02:01,500
gonna have Katie Howland back in the

3160
02:02:05,810 --> 02:02:03,780
very near future and um a lot of other

3161
02:02:08,089 --> 02:02:05,820
familiar faces out there in the UFO

3162
02:02:09,830 --> 02:02:08,099
Community will be coming up on somewhere

3163
02:02:12,169 --> 02:02:09,840
in the live stream

3164
02:02:14,689 --> 02:02:12,179
um but for what's next with somewhere in

3165
02:02:18,649 --> 02:02:14,699
the skies I do have to tease our episode

3166
02:02:20,390 --> 02:02:18,659
coming out tonight finally finally we

3167
02:02:24,709 --> 02:02:20,400
have Fred Anderson talking about the

3168
02:02:26,870 --> 02:02:24,719
Swedish Men In Black this was by far one

3169
02:02:28,729 --> 02:02:26,880
of my favorite interviews we've done at

3170
02:02:30,589 --> 02:02:28,739
somewhere in the skies so far so I'm

3171
02:02:32,570 --> 02:02:30,599
gonna go ahead and tease a little bit of

3172
02:02:35,390 --> 02:02:32,580
that interview with you guys that will

3173
02:02:38,209 --> 02:02:35,400
be dropping in a few hours um check this

3174
02:02:40,430 --> 02:02:38,219
clip up they're not so common in Sweden

3175
02:02:42,830 --> 02:02:40,440
because we don't have the same tradition

3176
02:02:47,810 --> 02:02:42,840
of secrecy as you have in the United

3177
02:02:50,149 --> 02:02:47,820
States in Sweden uh I'm exaggerating a

3178
02:02:53,450 --> 02:02:50,159
little bit but we're a very very open

3179
02:02:56,089 --> 02:02:53,460
country you can get access to a lot of

3180
02:02:58,490 --> 02:02:56,099
material you can pick up the phone and

3181
02:03:01,729 --> 02:02:58,500
talk directly to someone still to a

3182
02:03:04,850 --> 02:03:01,739
certain degree and I I think that the

3183
02:03:07,550 --> 02:03:04,860
the secretness the secrecy of the United

3184
02:03:12,410 --> 02:03:07,560
States and the the the the government

3185
02:03:16,129 --> 02:03:12,420
style uh the United States have kinda

3186
02:03:19,310 --> 02:03:16,139
the the feeds the Men in Black mythology

3187
02:03:23,689 --> 02:03:22,010
yeah so a lot to look forward to guys

3188
02:03:27,169 --> 02:03:23,699
with that interview with Fred Anderson

3189
02:03:29,390 --> 02:03:27,179
dropping in a mere few hours on all

3190
02:03:30,950 --> 02:03:29,400
podcast apps and tomorrow night it'll

3191
02:03:33,050 --> 02:03:30,960
premiere on YouTube right here on

3192
02:03:35,510 --> 02:03:33,060
YouTube as well so make sure you have

3193
02:03:36,950 --> 02:03:35,520
your notifications turned on subscribe

3194
02:03:40,010 --> 02:03:36,960
to the channel if you're not already

3195
02:03:42,890 --> 02:03:40,020
please like this video all of that stuff

3196
02:03:45,770 --> 02:03:42,900
helps tremendously boosts us up in the

3197
02:03:47,750 --> 02:03:45,780
algorithms leave comments below outside

3198
02:03:50,930 --> 02:03:47,760
of the live chat leave comments Below in

3199
02:03:53,810 --> 02:03:50,940
the video that really helps us as well

3200
02:03:55,129 --> 02:03:53,820
um thank you so much to red panda koala

3201
02:03:57,290 --> 02:03:55,139
for the Super Chat cheers guys

3202
02:03:59,390 --> 02:03:57,300
predictions for 2023 oh I'm sorry I

3203
02:04:01,070 --> 02:03:59,400
didn't see that before Dan left I'm

3204
02:04:03,350 --> 02:04:01,080
sorry red panda

3205
02:04:05,270 --> 02:04:03,360
um predictions for 2023 I kind of said

3206
02:04:07,070 --> 02:04:05,280
it earlier in our show

3207
02:04:10,250 --> 02:04:07,080
um I honestly believe this is going to

3208
02:04:12,530 --> 02:04:10,260
be a breakthrough year in UAP and

3209
02:04:15,530 --> 02:04:12,540
science uh we're already seeing it play

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02:04:17,810 --> 02:04:15,540
out with the Galileo project and um the

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science advisor in Canada now getting

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involved with this UAP report that's

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going to come out in Canada and NASA's

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results are going to be coming out in a

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few months now on what they have

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discovered and what they've unraveled

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with the UAP mystery when it comes to uh

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space and you know the outer atmosphere

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and and retroactively looking at a lot

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of anomalies in the past that NASA has

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captured or tracked um so yeah man I I

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still think it's the year of science

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when it comes to a lot of this so um I'm

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really looking forward to that I hope

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that answers your question again again a

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very special thanks to James Craig for

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the Super Chat the Jazz Shaw and a red

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panda koala

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um it really helps the show out guys so

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02:05:06,229 --> 02:05:04,320
thank you thank you thank you to

3231
02:05:08,270 --> 02:05:06,239
everyone in the chat

3232
02:05:11,689 --> 02:05:08,280
um I know I haven't kept up with a lot

3233
02:05:14,089 --> 02:05:11,699
of it but um I love how active you guys

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02:05:15,530 --> 02:05:14,099
are having your own conversations

3235
02:05:17,930 --> 02:05:15,540
um in the chat while we're having them

3236
02:05:20,390 --> 02:05:17,940
here as well so I can't wait to go back

3237
02:05:23,030 --> 02:05:20,400
in the archive and and watch this and

3238
02:05:24,950 --> 02:05:23,040
and read all your comments as well

3239
02:05:26,870 --> 02:05:24,960
um but that's it for tonight guys again

3240
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another jam-packed episode of somewhere

3241
02:05:30,950 --> 02:05:28,980
in the live stream I hope you enjoyed it

3242
02:05:33,229 --> 02:05:30,960
please tell your friends

3243
02:05:35,810 --> 02:05:33,239
um share the episode if you have any

3244
02:05:38,330 --> 02:05:35,820
news stories uh I'm always looking for

3245
02:05:41,870 --> 02:05:38,340
that so reach out to me on Twitter at

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02:05:43,729 --> 02:05:41,880
somewhere skies and um DM me the news

3247
02:05:46,129 --> 02:05:43,739
stories you want covered on the next

3248
02:05:48,290 --> 02:05:46,139
week's episode of the live stream

3249
02:05:50,810 --> 02:05:48,300
um whether it's a UFO case or or

3250
02:05:53,510 --> 02:05:50,820
something current in the news or

3251
02:05:56,089 --> 02:05:53,520
podcasts you've listened to interviews

3252
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you've seen documentaries um send it to

3253
02:06:00,950 --> 02:05:58,260
me I would absolutely love to include

3254
02:06:03,649 --> 02:06:00,960
more of what you want to see in here on

3255
02:06:06,169 --> 02:06:03,659
these live streams as well

3256
02:06:08,750 --> 02:06:06,179
um let's see here

3257
02:06:11,149 --> 02:06:08,760
um Douglas thank you uh Dan's in the

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02:06:13,070 --> 02:06:11,159
chat right now such an amazing guy

3259
02:06:15,470 --> 02:06:13,080
Douglas Sprague I like the spread kid

3260
02:06:17,330 --> 02:06:15,480
Dan was a great guest thank you thank

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02:06:19,010 --> 02:06:17,340
you Douglas Sprague I appreciate that

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02:06:21,589 --> 02:06:19,020
immensely

3263
02:06:23,209 --> 02:06:21,599
um let's see let's see Pat Gallagher

3264
02:06:25,370 --> 02:06:23,219
says the show is going from strength to

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02:06:27,830 --> 02:06:25,380
strength Ryan I appreciate that I

3266
02:06:29,930 --> 02:06:27,840
honestly do I'm learning every week man

3267
02:06:32,089 --> 02:06:29,940
um you know I'm a playwright I'm a slave

3268
02:06:34,010 --> 02:06:32,099
to a script so doing improv live stuff

3269
02:06:37,070 --> 02:06:34,020
like this is new for me

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02:06:39,530 --> 02:06:37,080
um I'm not really uh

3271
02:06:40,790 --> 02:06:39,540
I'm not as confident as many people

3272
02:06:42,530 --> 02:06:40,800
would think when it comes to this sort

3273
02:06:45,530 --> 02:06:42,540
of stuff so that really means a lot to

3274
02:06:46,490 --> 02:06:45,540
me and you guys really do help me with

3275
02:06:49,250 --> 02:06:46,500
that

3276
02:06:50,990 --> 02:06:49,260
um boost me up and support me and uh I

3277
02:06:53,270 --> 02:06:51,000
can't thank you enough for doing that um

3278
02:06:54,709 --> 02:06:53,280
it means the world to me so thank you

3279
02:06:56,870 --> 02:06:54,719
thank you for being here thank you for

3280
02:06:59,390 --> 02:06:56,880
spending time with me every Sunday doing

3281
02:07:01,010 --> 02:06:59,400
this especially do the the regulars in

3282
02:07:02,209 --> 02:07:01,020
here who come every week I really do

3283
02:07:04,850 --> 02:07:02,219
appreciate it

3284
02:07:07,129 --> 02:07:04,860
um so that's it like subscribe follow

3285
02:07:08,750 --> 02:07:07,139
all that good stuff I'll see you in just

3286
02:07:10,490 --> 02:07:08,760
a few hours over on somewhere in the

3287
02:07:12,530 --> 02:07:10,500
skies with our interview with Fred

3288
02:07:13,850 --> 02:07:12,540
Anderson and then tomorrow night that

3289
02:07:15,950 --> 02:07:13,860
episode will Premiere right here on

3290
02:07:17,870 --> 02:07:15,960
YouTube as well in video form

3291
02:07:20,510 --> 02:07:17,880
um and we have an extra bonus episode

3292
02:07:23,330 --> 02:07:20,520
with Fred Anderson where he tells us a

3293
02:07:26,149 --> 02:07:23,340
story of a modern day Swedish men in

3294
02:07:29,149 --> 02:07:26,159
black case that's over on patreon and

3295
02:07:32,810 --> 02:07:29,159
for Apple premium subscribers as well a

3296
02:07:33,890 --> 02:07:32,820
bonus like 30 minute episode uh so be

3297
02:07:37,490 --> 02:07:33,900
sure to check that out as well

3298
02:07:39,770 --> 02:07:37,500
patreon.com somewhere Skies if you want

3299
02:07:43,310 --> 02:07:39,780
some bonus content in Early Access to

3300
02:07:45,709 --> 02:07:43,320
all of our content as well that's it I'm

3301
02:07:48,109 --> 02:07:45,719
gonna say goodnight guys good night to

3302
02:07:50,209 --> 02:07:48,119
Douglas Sue Sprague Christy Sprague

3303
02:07:52,790 --> 02:07:50,219
everyone in the chat truly appreciate it

3304
02:07:56,089 --> 02:07:52,800
guys a very special thanks to Our Guest

3305
02:07:58,609 --> 02:07:56,099
Dan zetterstrom as well and as always

3306
02:08:00,709 --> 02:07:58,619
keep your feet on the ground but never

3307
02:08:03,260 --> 02:08:00,719
stop searching somewhere in the skies

3308
02:08:05,280 --> 02:08:03,270
have a great night we'll talk soon

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02:08:07,010 --> 02:08:05,290
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